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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:47 am    Post subject: Oooh! A complaint! Reply with quote

I would just like (as a joke) to state my outrage at the ridiculous 'cartouche makers' being sold in the Egyptian Dreams shop. They are advertised as being great for children, and yet they instruct them in false hieroglyphs! The hieroglyphs in the sets are just direct transliterations of the Greek names and are completely wrong! See for yourselves'!

This is Tutankhamun's real cartouche:

"Tut-ankh Amun, Nesu heka Iunu"

Here is Egyptian Dreams' fake one:

"T-u-t-a-n-k-a-m-u-m"

The rest of them are all like that. Cleopatra's one is wrong, Nefertiti's is wrong. . . I have yet to find one genuine cartouche. Just think of all of those children misspelling the names! Oh- it makes me sick people. You should be ashamed of yourselves!

Just kidding. I just found that mildly amusing.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's always one Rolling Eyes

If you notice the actual cartouche is left blank! They come with a set of stickers that contain hieroglyphic symbols so that you can put your own name inside the cartouche. I don't think there were many ancient Egyptians with the same names as we have today so what hieroglyphics are we supposed to use?

'Ridiculous' indeed!!! Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not talking about the stickers- I am talking about the false transliteration, or indeed spelling, of the Egyptian's name to the left of the cartouche.

Oh well.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to think they were made in Egypt too! You think they'd know better Wink Although having said that the one that says 'Isis and Seti' is actually Hathor and Seti so go figure Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that you are mistaken- the figure on the papyrus is most certainly Isis, not Hathor. She wears the Isis/Hathor headress, but can be identified by the correct central inscription, "Words said by Isis....".

So there Smile . Mwa ha ha aha! (Those smiley faces look pretty evil if you ask me. They're up to no good I tells ya!)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psusennes wrote:
I believe that you are mistaken- the figure on the papyrus is most certainly Isis, not Hathor. She wears the Isis/Hathor headress, but can be identified by the correct central inscription, "Words said by Isis....".
You have to blame Segereh then cos he told me it was Hathor. See http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that is Hathor becuase she wears a necklace that only Hathor wears, can't remember what it's called but it's usually Hathor's associated with it.

There is another picture which also gets confusing. it's a picture of a queen being led by a horned goddess. Now, many people say it's Hathor but I'm pretty sure it's Isis, because the throne symbol that is her name is in the hieroglyphs next to her.

Those two goddesses are so alike it's almost migraine-inducing Laughing i'm surprised they don't have a rivalry between them!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at least I'm happy that the item in question is advertised correctly Very Happy Wouldn't want Trading Standards sueing me for false advertising Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Egyptian Dreams has good stuff in its gift shop, and the products are fine. I'll probably end up buying some stuff from there sooner or later. Psusennes doesn't need to get bent out of shape over something like those cartouche papyri, because they're just for fun. If someone really wants to learn hieroglyphs, that's hardly the place a logical person would start, anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kmt_sesh wrote:
Psusennes doesn't need to get bent out of shape over something like those cartouche papyri, because they're just for fun.
In fairness, Psusennes post was just in fun Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right, of course. Now that I reread the title of Psusennes's original post ("Oooh! A complaint!"), I should have recognized that it was simply in jest.

I pledge henceforth to chill out, take a pill, lighten up, and all that stuff.

It's all good, man. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The actual cartouches in the text are even stranger- I haven't been able to match them to any Pharaoh's cartouches. That's partly because I can't be bothered, but they are most certainly not Seti I's cartouches.

It still looks quite nice though. Maybe I'll buy something from the shop as a gift for some of my friends.
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