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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that he must have been crimated.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Alexander was mummified and buried in the Soma in Alexandria according to the writings of the Romans. Apparently his mummy was still seen during the Roman occupation. His gold sarcophagus was at some point replaced by a glass coffin by one of the Ptolemies if I remember correctly.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, i didn't know that. Very Happy sorry.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question. As the legend goes, Ptolemaios absconded with Alexander's body when he went to claim Egypt for his fiefdom. The corpse is said to have been placed within a large sarcophagus for the journey, and some accounts have it that he was preserved in quantities of honey. My memory fails me at the moment but a certain Roman emperor reported having visited the sarcophagus of Alexander in Alexandria, to pay tribute to the great Macedonian conquerer. There is always a chance that it still lies somewhere within the forgotten subterranean recesses of that city. Some argue that the body rests under this or that mosque in Alexandria, but modern Muslim clerics won't allow anyone to investigate. Can't blame 'em...what a scavanger hunt that would turn out to be!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

finding alexander the great's tomb? that would be...amazing to say the least. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this may be totally wrong but im sure i heard that julius ceasar went and payed homage to alexanders body Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

makes sense that he would...he was really one of the only people in history who actually became as great as alexander.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate leaving loose ends so I double-checked my facts, and it was Augustus (Octavius) who is said to have visited the body of Alexander. There are numerous sites where people believe Alexander may have been buried, but the leading contender for the Alexandria site is the Mosque of Nebi Daniel.

I found this amusing quote about Augustus' visit from the Tour Egypt web site:

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As he bent over the body to kiss the great conqueror, Augustus accidentally broke Alexander's nose. When Augustus was asked if he wanted to visit the tombs of the Ptolemies, he refused, saying that, “I came to see a king and not dead people."

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*mumbles* pompus a**...sorry but that's a bad subject for me. I hate octavian. The Ptolemies didn't try to change the ancient egyptians, they were not bad rulers either. Of course some were better than others, but that's to be expected. Did he even know that they were family of alexander?! I spit on him! Mad
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I hate octavian. The Ptolemies didn't try to change the ancient egyptians, they were not bad rulers either. Of course some were better than others, but that's to be expected. Did he even know that they were family of alexander?! I spit on him!


Octavian was no worse than the average Roman emporer and was far more sane than many (e.g., Nero, Caligula). He's simply the guy who conquered Egypt (as was inevitable anyway, from the Roman perspective) and began several hundred years of Roman occupation and exploitation.

Ptolemaios I Soter (the first Ptolemaic king) was a grand success and by all accounts was well accepted by the native Egyptians, which was why nearly all of the later Greek rulers named themselves after him and tried to emulate him, but a number of these later Ptolemies were spectacular self-serving failures. There were several uprisings against them, albeit generally minor and all unsuccessful. And none of the Ptolemies were in any way related to Alexander, though Ptolemaios (the original) was certainly a close friend and trusted advisor to him. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I don't like roman emporers! I'm very stubborn about this. I feel I must be loyal to cleo. But anyways...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can bet most people under Roman dominion didn't like Roman emperors. Laughing

Cleopatra VII was probably a very successful and popular ruler herself, close on scale to Ptolemaios I Soter. It's hard to separate the fiction from the fact in her case. But she was certainly no pacifist angel...well, no ruler was, Egyptian or otherwise.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that why I relate to her...ha ha just kidding. She was just a very smart woman, that's all Wink .
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra was an astute, shrewd, and highly intelligent ruler. She did what she thought she had to do to put herself and then her son in power. She was only kidding herself that Marc Antony could carve up some of the Roman empire for Cleopatra as a "client," and that dreadful mistake was fatal. But she was doing it to try to restore the grandeur of her own kingdom and its former vassals, which were quickly being swallowed up by Rome.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm...i have heard different things about Antony, some people say he was a scum bag, others say he truly loved cleo...guess we'll never know.
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