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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Bosnian Pyramids Reply with quote

Wasn't sure where to post this, but the news items now mention an egyptian scientist who has been sent to Bosnia Very Happy

This find is very controversial. Some think there may be something to it while other dismiss this as a bunch of hype and a hoax.

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Sarajevo - An Egyptian geologist who has joined Bosnian researchers unearthing what are thought to be Europe's first pyramids believes they bear similar hallmarks to the ancient structures in his homeland, an official said on Wednesday.
Aly Abd Alla Barakat, of the Egyptian Mineral Resources Authority, believes large stone blocks found near Sarajevo were man-made and polished in the same way as the pyramids of Giza, said the Bosnian Pyramid Foundation's Mario Gerussi.
"Barakat has also found the presence of a special material linking the stone blocks which is identical to that used for pyramids in Giza," he added.
Barakat had extensive knowledge of the pyramids in Giza and had been recommended for the Bosnian mission by Zahi Hawass, one of the world's foremost Egyptologists, said Gerussi.


This is just a small excerpt. The rest of the article can be found here:
Article: Bosnian pyramids bear giza hallmarks

There's also info at:
http://www.bosnianpyramids.org/

http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/

http://www.livescience.com/history/060504_bosnia_controversy.html

There's much more if you do a search on google....

I don't know what to think of it myself Very Happy I'm always a bit suspicious of things like this. It seems to me that they haven't even established if these are pyramids.

And even if they are the fact that they are covered with soil makes them very different from the ones in Egypt.

And without having a sense of what time period these date to, we really don't know very much...
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what to think, other than to say it seems a stretch to me. I fear they're rushing to judgement. And the only way to build a massive structure in the ancient world was to construst a large base to support it, and build up from there--hence pyramid or pyramid-like constructions in Mesoamerica and China. The photographs are interesting, though. They've definitely come upon something worth exploring.

Hmm, I wonder if this is where Khufu's actual burial chamber lies? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitely something worth exploring, but I came across another website where the case was made that these formation may actually be natural.

The heading is "Pyramid? I see no pyramid." Very Happy
http://www.wunderkabinett.co.uk/damndata/index.php?/archives/280-Pyramid-I-see-no-pyramid-here.html

It's interesting to read. The person writing it says he's a geologist, so his/her take is interesting.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He makes some awfully good points, this geologist, doesn't he? And the one photo in his article really does argue against the pyramid theory. I still think it's a rush to judgement to try to call this formation a pyramid.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The writing on the block of stone seems Germanic or perhaps Etrusc to mehttp://www.bosnianpyramid.com/index_files/News.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bosnia "Pyramid" Is Not Human-Made, U.K. Expert Says
Sean Markey
for National Geographic News
June 13, 2006

A war of words continues to rage over the alleged discovery of an ancient pyramid in Bosnia.

Bosnian-American pyramid buff Semir "Sam" Osmanagic claims a four-sided hill in the town of Visoko is Europe's first known pyramid, larger than any ever built in Egypt.

But in the latest salvo in this battle, the president of the European Association of Archaeologists said on Friday that he had visited the 700-foot (213-meter) hill and saw no evidence that it was human-made.
Speaking at a press conference in Sarajevo, Anthony Harding told reporters the pyramid-shaped hill was a natural phenomenon.

"My opinion and the opinion of my colleagues is what we saw was entirely geological in nature," the AFP news agency quoted him as saying.

"Further work of the same kind would simply produce the same results. I don't think it would change any view about what the nature of the hill is," he said.

Harding, an archaeology professor at England's University of Exeter, visited Visoko, 18 miles (30 kilometers) from Sarajevo, on Thursday.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that update, carla. I'm no geologist or archaeologist, but I've never found the Bosnian pyramid to be credible, and the more I've read about it and the more photos of it I've seen, the more I have to stand by my own original beliefs.

This is a good example of people's imaginations getting away from them, and it's also proof that it can even happen to professionals. In the end, I'm sad to say some people are going to walk away feeling sort of foolish. Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While searching today for a different letter concerning Zahi Hawass, I came across another that happens to pertain to the Bosnian "pyramid." This one was written by Hawass and it would seem the secretary general of the SCA is working hard to distance himself from this project in Bosnia.

The letter opens as such:

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The discoverer of the “pyramid” in Bosnia, Semir Osmanagic, who claims that a hill near the Bosnia River is a man-made structure built before the end of the last Ice Age, is not a specialist on pyramids. His previous claim that the Maya are from the Pleiades and Disney Land should be enough for any educated reader.


And Hawass has this to say of the Egyptian scientist involved with the project:

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Mr. Barakat, the Egyptian geologist working with Mr. Osmanagic, knows nothing about Egyptian pyramids. He was not sent by the SCA, and we do not support or concur with his statements.


Initial reports had it that this Barakat fellow had been sent by Hawass or at least was working on behalf of the SCA, so this would appear to have been misdirection on Barakat's part from the very beginning.

Either that or Hawass has seen the folly of trying to pass off this hill as a pyramid, and is spinning himself clear of it. Razz

Here is the full text of the letter:

Letter to Mark Rose, Archaeology magazine.
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