View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
anneke Queen of Egypt


Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 9305
|
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Segereh Pharaoh


Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 2934 Location: Bruges
|
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
And lots of working on certain people's nerves.
Not looking at any Kevs in particular...  _________________ "Leave him in error who loves his error."
"Learn politeness from the impolite."
Feel free to visit my site in construction:
-- www.enks.net -- |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Smartie Scribe


Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 250 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Was Horemheb trying to be the ancient version of King Henry VIII?
I've always thought that maybe Horemhem was idle? and could not produce children? though with the low life expectancy on infants back then, I guess he could have actually had a child but he/she or they died young?
could it be that him and Tut are distant relatives? I say this only because neither one of them had a healthy male child. Coudl Horemheb have been a son of Amenhotep III, by a minor wife, who like so many other before and after made a claim to the throne..and actually got it? my fictional mind at work here of course. _________________
 |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Smartie Scribe


Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 250 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
UGH I meant 'Infertil' not 'idle' lol _________________
 |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Smartie Scribe


Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 250 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: | For as far as I know there are only a handful of people ever interred at Amarna: Akhenaten, Nefertiti, Meketaten, Neferuaten-Tasherit, and maybe Kiya. |
What about Tiye? she's a pretty popular queen and yet I have never heard any mention of her tomb?  _________________
 |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Robson Vizier


Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1007 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
|
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
KV 55  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Smartie Scribe


Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 250 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
why would she get such a crappy burial? I've always assumed that she initially had a great tomb built for her, but we have no evidence of that. _________________
 |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Robson Vizier


Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1007 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
|
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
Maybe because she died in his son's reign and he (Akhenaten) was very fond for family values and probably wished to keep them all together in the huge Amarna Royal Tomb. Later, possibly in Tut's reign her burial regalia was dismantelled and spread between KV 55 and WV 22 (Amenhotep III tomb), which was possibly her last resting (?) place... if she isn't the KV 35's Elder Lady. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Theban Moon Citizen

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Posts: 35
|
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
anneke wrote: |
Interesting enough Dr Smith later wrote:
In the sarcophagus were the remains of a mummy, but what became of it is unknown. In spite of what Mr. Davis has written in the volume dealing with this tomb, the bones were not submitted to any examination at the time of their discovery.
So I guess it's a bit of a mystery what happened to the mummy that was in the sarcophagus. |
I don't suppose you have a reference for that statement? I am trying to write an article for Egyptological and that's a reference I would like to chase down.
Kate _________________ Kate Phizackerley
News from the Valley of the Kings |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
anneke Queen of Egypt


Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 9305
|
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
I looked but don't remember exactly where I read that.
That's quite a few years ago and I'm not sure what articles I had been reading at that point. _________________ Math and Art: http://mathematicsaroundus.blogspot.com/ |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Lutz Pharaoh


Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 4060 Location: Berlin, Germany
|
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:56 am Post subject: |
|
|
Theban Moon wrote: | anneke wrote: |
Interesting enough Dr Smith later wrote:
In the sarcophagus were the remains of a mummy, but what became of it is unknown. In spite of what Mr. Davis has written in the volume dealing with this tomb, the bones were not submitted to any examination at the time of their discovery.
So I guess it's a bit of a mystery what happened to the mummy that was in the sarcophagus. |
I don't suppose you have a reference for that statement? I am trying to write an article for Egyptological and that's a reference I would like to chase down. |
After George B. Johnson : The Royal Tomb of Horemheb in the Valley of the Kings - Its Discovery, Design and Decoration. - In: Amarna letters - Essays on ancient Egypt, c. 1390 - 1310 BC - 4. - San Francisco : Kmt Communications, 2000. - pp. 120 - 159,
footnote 9 on page 125 it comes from
G. Elliot Smith / Warren R. Dawson : Egyptian mummies. - London : Allen & Unwin, 1924. - 188 p., page 98.
Greetings, Lutz. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Sothis Priest

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 659
|
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Here is a link which I found in the Egyptology News Blog and which could be interesting for this thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lLv58zwGhU
This is the video coverage of a symposium held in connection with the Horemheb exhibition. Speakers are amongst others van Dijk and Allen.
Warning: You`ll need time and patience to watch it as it runs more than three and a half hours. Have fun!
I watched some of it, and I am a bit disappointed that van Dijk made no attempt to explain the absence of the title "Eldest son of Horus" in the tomb which appears in the text of Horemheb`s coronation stela. Instead he stresses the numerous occurrences of the title iripat and iripat of Upper and Lower Egypt which he takes as valid proof that Horemheb was designated heir to the throne of Tut.
I wonder if in the later following discussion section someone will address this problem. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Theban Moon Citizen

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Posts: 35
|
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Lutz wrote: | Theban Moon wrote: | anneke wrote: |
Interesting enough Dr Smith later wrote:
In the sarcophagus were the remains of a mummy, but what became of it is unknown. In spite of what Mr. Davis has written in the volume dealing with this tomb, the bones were not submitted to any examination at the time of their discovery.
So I guess it's a bit of a mystery what happened to the mummy that was in the sarcophagus. |
I don't suppose you have a reference for that statement? I am trying to write an article for Egyptological and that's a reference I would like to chase down. |
After George B. Johnson : The Royal Tomb of Horemheb in the Valley of the Kings - Its Discovery, Design and Decoration. - In: Amarna letters - Essays on ancient Egypt, c. 1390 - 1310 BC - 4. - San Francisco : Kmt Communications, 2000. - pp. 120 - 159,
footnote 9 on page 125 it comes from
G. Elliot Smith / Warren R. Dawson : Egyptian mummies. - London : Allen & Unwin, 1924. - 188 p., page 98.
Greetings, Lutz. |
Thank you so much _________________ Kate Phizackerley
News from the Valley of the Kings |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Sothis Priest

Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 659
|
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I don`t know if the references given by Lutz give the same information but in his speech (see previous link) Reeves says that in KV 57 they initially found several skulls and bones from different persons (more persons than the skulls would account for). These remains were found in a storeroom, a sidechamber and the sarcophagus itself.
He suggests that these additional burials date from the third intermediate period and that they together with the possibly returned remains of Horemheb himself formed another kind of cache which was then unfortunately at some point severely disturbed. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
cal_105 Citizen

Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 12 Location: Ft Worth, Texas USA
|
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|