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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

conorp - Apophis - Shepenmut Lutz,


Thanks so much for posting those great pictures Razz .

They are so beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!!


Dear Lutz,

I am looking for a picture of an wristlet of elephant ivory tusk from the site at Amarna. It was found in House Q 48.1 at Amarna by Borchardt.

The wristlet shows Thutmose IV in the act of smiting an Asiatic. Thutmose IV wears an "Nubian" wig, the shebiu collar, and the sun disk appears over his head. The scene is enacted before the statue of Montu-Re who offers the scimitar to the king.
The disk atop Thutmose's head may have identified the king with the sun god but not necessarily the Aten.
According to Betsy Bryan in "The Reign of Thutmose IV" the wristlet belongs to the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin.

Do you have by any chance a picture of this wristlet? It would be great to see Razz !

Thanks in advance.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Pictures from museums (NEW THREAD) Reply with quote

Hello !

Part 2 : " Made of Stone : Kings, Queens, Priests and Privates". Hope you like ...



Amenemhet III. MK. 12. Dyn. Inv.: 1121.



Amasis. LP. 26. Dyn. Sais. Inv.: 11864.



Amenhotep II. NK. 18. Dyn. Wad Ban Naga (Sudan). Inv.: 2057.



Hatschepsut. NK. 18. Dyn. Inv.: 34431.



Sobekhotep V. MK / 2nd. IP. 13. / 14. Dyn. Inv.: 10645.



Amenemhet III. MK. 12. Dyn. Inv.: 17850.



Amenemhet III. MK. 12. Dyn. Inv.: 17551.



Amenemhet III. MK. 12. Dyn. Inv.: 11348.



Family Group. AR. 5. Dyn. Sakkara. Inv.: 10123.



Montemhet. Major of Thebes. LP. 25. / 26.Dyn. Karnak. Inv.: 17271.



Chertihotep. MK. 12. Dyn. Inv.: 15700.



Sesostris I. Fragment Of Kneeling Figure. MK. 12. Dyn. Inv.: 1205.



Head Of A King. OK. 5. Dyn. Giza (?). Inv.: 14396.



Tjenti. OK. 6. Dyn. Inv.: 6430.



Hetep-Ni. OK. Late 5-th. Dyn. Inv.: 34428.



Metjen. District Governor. OK, Early 4-th. Dyn. Sakkara. Inv.: 1106.



Maja. NK. 18. Dyn. Reign Of Thutmosis III. Menschue (?). Inv.: 19286.



Mentechenu. NK. 18. Dyn. Karnak. Inv.: 19289.



Tai-Tai. NK. 18. Dyn. Inv.: 17021.



Antef. MK / 2nd. IP. 13. Dyn. Inv.: 12485.



Amenemhet. NK. 18. Dyn. Inv.: 2316.



Nacht-Hor-Heb. LP. 26. Dyn. Sais. Inv.: 1048.



Amenemopet. NK. 18. Dyn. Inv.: 31199.



Hor. 3rd. IP. 23. Dyn. Inv.: 17272.



Petamenophis. LP. 25. / 26.Dyn. Inv.: 23728.



Dersenedj. Scribe. OK. 5. Dyn. Memphis. Inv.: 15701.



Scribes. One Before Thot. NK. 18. Dyn. Inv.: 22621 (Amarna), 20001 & 14445.



Queen. Early Ptolemaic. Inv.: 21763.



Family Group Of Ptahmai. NK. 19. Dyn. Sakkara. Inv.: 2297.



Collection Of Heads.



Chaemwaset. High Priest Of Ptah. Son Of Ramses II. NK. 19. Dyn. Inv.: 13460.



The Berlin Green Head. LP. 30. Dyn. Inv.: 12500.



Hor-Sa-Tutu. Early Ptolemaic. Sais (?). Inv.: 2271.



Copyright of all pictures : Lutz. I have no problem with private and non-commercial use. But ask before, please !

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Rozette !

Rozette wrote:
I am looking for a picture of an wristlet of elephant ivory tusk from the site at Amarna. It was found in House Q 48.1 at Amarna by Borchardt.
The wristlet shows Thutmose IV in the act of smiting an Asiatic. Thutmose IV wears an "Nubian" wig, the shebiu collar, and the sun disk appears over his head. The scene is enacted before the statue of Montu-Re who offers the scimitar to the king.
The disk atop Thutmose's head may have identified the king with the sun god but not necessarily the Aten.
According to Betsy Bryan in "The Reign of Thutmose IV" the wristlet belongs to the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin.





Pic taken from "Ägyptisches Museum Berlin" (Berlin: SMB, 1967. - p.56 and pl. 590). 11,2 cm long. Inv.: 21685. Lit.: Borchardt, MDOG 55 (1914), p. 32 and pl. 5.




Dear Conorp !

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Would you mind if if i saved those photos to a cd. They really are amazing.


Thanks. No problem, for private and non-commercial use only.




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Lutz,


Thank you so much for posting the picture of the wristlet of Thutmose IV.



Friendly greetings,


Rozette Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Pictures from museums (NEW THREAD) Reply with quote

Hello !

Have two "all-time-favoureds" among the pieces at Berlin-Museum. Here is the first one :









The Baboon of Horus Narmer. "Hedj-Wer" ; Ancestor Cult. Inv.: 22602. One of the oldest known cult statues we have from Ancient Egypt.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Lutz

Again great pictures Smile

Are these all from the Ägyptisches Museum Berlin?

Is there anymore museums with egyptian collections in Berlin.

Also

Ägyptisches Museum Berlin" (Berlin: SMB, 1967. - p.56 and pl. 590). 11,2 cm long. Inv.: 21685. Lit.: Borchardt, MDOG 55 (1914), p. 32 and pl. 5.

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Does that have info on every piece in the museum?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

conorp wrote:
Are these all from the Ägyptisches Museum Berlin?

Yes, of course.

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Is there anymore museums with egyptian collections in Berlin.

Not really Ancient Egyptian collections. "Just" pieces : for example the bigger part of the famous Amarna-Tablets at "Antikensammlung" in the Pergamon-Museum (199 letters and fragments ... 83 BM London, 50 Cairo, 1 Louvre Paris, 11 Private) and some Greek-Roman-Egyptian stuff.

The "Museum for Islamic Art" at Pergamon-Museum has also a lot of pieces from Egypt, starting from islamic times of course.

(http://www.smb.spk-berlin.de/smb/home/index.php?lang=de)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Museums_in_Berlin)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_Island)


Unique in Europe : "Botanic Garden and Botanical Museum Berlin-Dahlem" with a special collection from Ancient Egypt :

" A special position in the show of the museum takes the so-called Egyptian division which represents culture and cultivated plants from history in old Egypt. The most beautiful and botanically most interesting pieces are shown to the collection of old Egyptian finds of the Afrika-scientist Georg Schweinfurth (1836-1925) one in her kind single collection, otherwise only in Cairo. In addition, coloured reproductions of frescos and foundings of reliefs are found with plant representations here from Pharaonen graves.

So the most famous objects are those flower chains and leaves, flowers and flower parts which were laid down on mummies, on and into the sarcophagi of ruler personalities praised so like the Pharao Ramses II. Besides that mat parts from date palm leaves, Zyper or Halfagras and a roof beam bit made of acacia wood are made out. Points out on into the meaning of the papyrus plant to a fragment of a handwriting on papyrus, this one was put like our paper of today.

To useful plants can be seen: Ears and grains of the Emmer of 6-line and malted barley which points to beer brewery; a piece of vine with leaves which proves the wine-growing in old Egypt; Fruits of the date palm and a fig type. Three fragments of mummy bandages from canvas safeguard the flax cultivation. Frescos and reliefs show wider useful plants, e.g. pomegranates and onions and offer insight into the harvest methods of the old Egyptians. " (Translated German ---> English by Personal Translator)

(http://www.bgbm.org/)


At "Ethnologisches Museum" in Berlin-Dahlem could be also something, don`t know really.

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"Ägyptisches Museum Berlin" (Berlin: SMB, 1967) ... Does that have info on every piece in the museum?


" The catalogue on hand is published on the occasion of the opening of the Egyptian museum in the western part of Berlin by whose inventory only the limestone bust of the queen Nefertiti and a small choice of further Amarna pieces could be shown till now. With the exhibition in the new house at Charlottenburg Castle it is for the first time possible now again to give a full summary of the wealth to art and culture from the first beginnings of Old Egyptian in the 5th millennium v. Chr. up to the time of the Roman Empire. To this a choice steps from the inventory of the papyrus collection whose testimonials of the middle of the third millennium v. Chr. reach to up to the late Middle Ages.

The order of the catalogue follows the chronological order of the exhibited objects. Roughly 1300 are discussed in the text and represented over 700 in the picture (b/w) by the over 1500 shown objects. The composition gives a summary organized after inventory numbers at the end of the ribbon. A considerable number of older inventory also is under the objects published for the first time besides new acquisitions which have been made since the reconstruction of the museum in the year 1962. " (Also by Personal Translator ...)

But there is to say that most pieces of the collection were at the east part of the city at "Bode-Museum" on "Museum-Iland".

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Lutz for that infomation.

I am so envious about all the egyptian "Things" In Berlin.

Do you want to send me some. LOL


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

conorp wrote:
I am so envious about all the egyptian "Things" In Berlin. Do you want to send me some.

Maybe you better spend your money for airline tickets than for "real" Ancient Egyptian antiquities ... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff, Lutz!
Always been jealous of your proximity. Razz

I've had quite a busy couple of days last week.
Became an uncle (first time!) on wednesday and spent the weekend in London.
At the O2 I couldn't take pictures of Tut, but I compensated that with a visit to the British Museum.
I'll post some of my pics here when I get around to sizing them down. Confused
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Great stuff, Lutz!

Wait until I walk through our " End-of-18-th-Dynastie-Amarna-Rooms " ... Cool

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Became an uncle (first time!) on wednesday and spent the weekend in London.

Congratulations ! Me : Nine times ... Razz sign10

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At the O2 I couldn't take pictures of Tut,

Normal for special exhibitions ... And Zahi wants to sell his book, right ? Idea

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... British Museum. I'll post some of my pics here when I get around to sizing them down.

That would be great. Never been there, London is so expensive ...

Here are also some very good picture collections (Some made by me. Highlights : Abydos - Umm el-Qaab, Temple of Osiris-Chentiimentiu and Ahmose-Kenotaph) : http://www.aegyptologie.com/forum/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?action=album .

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Im very sorry about the second page. I couldnt find a way that all the writing would fit. If its important i will type it up, but that could take a while.

Anyway, here it is:
http://www.mediamax.com/conorp/Hosted/ptaho.pdf


Thank you conorp this picture is great. Very Happy I can make out the writing thanks again.
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Thank you conorp this picture is great. Very Happy I can make out the writing thanks again.


No problem

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Wait until I walk through our " End-of-18-th-Dynastie-Amarna-Rooms


OMG there is more. I cant wait
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I looked up the museums in berlin. Here are the egyptian collections in berlin.

Ägyptisches Museum und Papyrussammlung (Altes Museum)

Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin

Botanisches Museum Berlin-Dahlem

Pergamonmuseum

Antikensammlung (Collection of Classical Antiquities)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lutz wrote:
Wait until I walk through our
"End-of-18-th-Dynastie-Amarna-Rooms" ... Cool

It's my party and I cry if I want to...
I've always wanted to go to the Berlin musea.
Thanks for bringing them a little closer!

NeferDuck wrote:
Congratulations ! Me : Nine times ...

Brag... Rolling Eyes

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Never been there, London is so expensive ...

Great city, really! Not too cheap, but it's ok when you spend more on books than on food.
Came back home with 12 extra books. My wallet still hurts.
(Charing Cross Road ROCKS!)

Didn't get around to sizing them down yet, but I'm on it.
Thanks for the links, Lutz & conorp.
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