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Chrismackint
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Interesting Akhenaten pictures Reply with quote

Found this picture of an early releif from temple to the aten at karnak showing akhenaten presenting the aten with maat, i guess this symbolises everything that is material and immaterial due to the goddess maat-but didn't akhenaten beleive the aten created everything? This is contradicting the hym to the aten...



Also this early releif of Akhenaten and Nefertiti presenting the aten with offering-notice how one of the aten's rays(arms) is connecting with akhenaten's urei! I was thinking maybe this might be some sort of symbolisim to do with how akhenaten associated with shu who is co dependednt on the aten(maybe amenhotep3 was associated as the aten after his death)and cannot exist without one another...just a thought.




couldn't find a closer picture but the one in the david p. silverman reference classics AE book is closer



LOL i never realised how big akhenaten was in this wall painting from the kings house-he's so much larger in proportion to others in his family!(That's his toe to the right!) Smile

What do u make of this statue of akhenaten associated with shu(male/female) his nemes goes from nemes to tripartite wig! Only women wore tripartite wigs i guess it's stressing the male/female association!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great pictures Chrismackint Razz ,

Thanks for posting them.

It's the first time that I see the relief of Akhenaten presenting the Aten with Maat Razz .

Interesting picture !
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



could only find the black and white drawing for this one forgot the site with the actual relief

i was wrong about the tripartite wig it's actually the wig tut is wearing on his outer most coffin!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't you think that this Ma'at depiction rather looks like AIII thronename (Nebma'atre)?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does look a bit like "Nebmaatre", but it really seems to be depicting the offering of Maat to the gods. It's really the same goddess that is offered by for instance Sety I in some of his inscriptions. And I'm fairly certain that several other kings are shown offering Maat in the same way.

It is interesting to see Akhenaten performing these more orthodox rituals. My guess would be that it dates to the first 4-5 years of his reign, possibly also to the time he was still known as Amenhotep IV and had not instituted some of the religious changes yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ville-ge.ch/mah/index.php?content=1.2.1.1.1.1.&id_eve=316&langue=eng

A photo of the King i hadn't seen before.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting photo!
It's unlike any I have ever seen of Ankhnaten.
I wonder if it has been positively identified?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chrismackint wrote:
http://www.ville-ge.ch/mah/index.php?content=1.2.1.1.1.1.&id_eve=316&langue=eng

A photo of the King i hadn't seen before.


This is not Akhenaten. It`s one part of a broken double statue of King Ay and Queen Teje, great kings wife of Amenhotep III.

One piece is in Genf, Musee d`Art et d`History. The other you find at St.Petersburg, Eremitage.

Prof.Wildung (Director Berlin Museum) found out that the pieces belong together. I think the museum`s changed copy`s ...

Greetings,

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P.S.: This piece is one reference for a possible relationship (sister and brother ??) of Queen Teje and King Ay.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi !

Here is an interesting little article taken from Amarna Letters 3. - San Francisco: KMT, 1994. - p.56 & 57 :




Maybe the face of Akhenaten wasen`t / isnīt so unusual (in Egypt / Near East) as we often thinking ?

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P.S.: Sorry for the bad quality, it`s a scan of a copy of a copy ... Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lutz wrote:
It`s one part of a broken double statue of King Ay and Queen Teje, great kings wife of Amenhotep III.
On which ground it is the queen of A III and not of Ay ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lutz wrote:
Maybe the face of Akhenaten wasen`t / isnīt so unusual (in Egypt / Near East) as we often thinking ?

I'm not convinced. If the young man on the San Francisco train had been with an equally odd-looking woman and a family of daughters with sausage-shaped heads, then the author might have had the beginnings of a case.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


This is the other part of the statue (STATE HERMITAGE MUSEUM,18577)


Musee d'Art et d'Histoire, Geneva, 12440 and STATE HERMITAGE MUSEUM,18577


This is possibly King Ay and, then, the Hermitage queen must be his wife Tii.

Lapis I.A., Matthieu M.E., Drevneegipetskaya skul'ptura v sobranii Gosudarstvennogo Ermitazha. Moscow, 1969, pp.66-67, cat.no.62, fig.40.
Wildung D. Eine Konigliche Statuengruppe der Nachamarnazeit. SAK 6 (1978), 227-233.
http://www.globalegyptianmuseum.org/record.aspx?id=12963&lan=E
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gerard. wrote:
Lutz wrote:
It`s one part of a broken double statue of King Ay and Queen Teje, great kings wife of Amenhotep III.
On which ground it is the queen of A III and not of Ay ?

This is what I remembered from a lecture in the Berlin Museum some years ago. But now I`m not sure any more ... You can read this also in Wedel, Carola: Nofretete und das Geheimnis von Amarna. - Mainz: von Zabern, 2005. - p. 38. - ISBN: 3-8053-3544-X. But the book from C.Wedel is full of such mistakes.

So, I ordered the article by Prof.Wildung and will let you know which Queen Teje he thinks she is ... Confused

Thanks to Rozette ! Wink

Greetings,

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the pictures posted by Rozette, how do we know it is Ay & Tii, written on the back ? I'm no expert, could they be fakes ?
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