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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually didn't know that, Osiris. Thanks for the info!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubastis = Per-Bast ("Temple of Bast")
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that cats are a Sirian link, and because Sirius played such a large part in forming the life of pre-dynastic Egypt, cats were revered as links to the Gods
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicstar wrote:

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My understanding is that cats are a Sirian link, and because Sirius played such a large part in forming the life of pre-dynastic Egypt, cats were revered as links to the Gods


Sorry, no such thing! I'm afraid I'm going to sound rude here, but New Age ideas aren't compatible with real Egyptological studies.

Cats didn't appear in AE art until the late MK, and because the iconography wasn't 'set', it's hard to tell if the animal shown was a cat, a genet, or an ichneuman.

Cats weren't domesticated until the NK; before that, cats shown in art were one of several species of small wild cats.

And the cat was first associated as a sacred emblem to Mut, in the NK.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you read this, Kat?
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/egypt/religion/cats.html
It really supplies some interesting information, and backs up what you have said.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for supplying the URL to this site- but take it with a rather large grain of salt, as it contains quite a few errors.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if there is any evidence that the cats were sacrificed because of allergic reactions to the gods? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Cat Worship Reply with quote

Argentum wrote:
Why did the ancient egyptians deified cats, especially cats? What was so special about them?


It appears as the debate has strayed into arguments over when cats were first deified and different ideas about how they were mummified but to get back on topic .... I believe that this would provide a good explanation to why the Egyptians deified cats.


"Plutarch tells us, moreover, that "on the upper part of the convex surface of the sistrum is carved the effigies of a Cat with a human visage, as on the lower edge of it, under those moving chords, is engraved on the one side the face of Isis, and on the other that of Nephthys.""

The face of Isis represents Generation, and that of Nephthys Corruption, and Plutarch says that the Cat denotes the moon, "its variety of colours, its activity in the night, and the peculiar circumstances which attend its fecundity making it a proper emblem of that body. For it is reported of this creature, that it at first brings forth one, then two, afterwards three, and so goes on adding one to each former birth till it comes to seven; so that she brings forth twenty-eight in all, corresponding as it were to the several degrees of light, which appear during one of the moon's revolutions. But though this perhaps may appear to carry the air of fiction with it, yet may it be depended upon that the pupils of her eyes seem to fill up and to grow larger upon the full of the moon, and to decrease again and diminish in their brightness upon its waning--as to the human countenance with which this Cat is carved, this is designed to denote that the changes of the moon are regulated by understanding and wisdom.""

Gods of the Egyptians Part 2: Studies in Egyptian Mythology
By E. A. Wallis Budge
Published by Kessinger Publishing, 2003
p.257
http://books.google.com/books?id=k28YJXiEBIoC&pg=PA257
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yhvh wrote:

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It appears as the debate has strayed into arguments over when cats were first deified and different ideas about how they were mummified but to get back on topic .... I believe that this would provide a good explanation to why the Egyptians deified cats.


But you didn't bother to read this whole thread! I've said before, CATS WERE NOT DEIFIED IN ANCIENT EGYPT. I tell you this three times.

Cats were frequently associated with AE goddesses, as a sacred animal, a kind of emblem if you will, but were not deified.

Individual cats, however, are not avatars of any particular goddess, like the Apis bull is an avatar of Ptah, and so individual cats are not deities in their own right.

And before you get wordy with nonsense, let's try it another way: The Lamb of God isn't another Xtian deity, it's a symbol for an Xtian deity. So it is with the sacred cats- symbols, not deities.

I'd provide you with an extensive bibliography, but why waste my time typing? In other threads, you've shown you don't want information, or sources of information.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taken from touregypt:
The progress of the cat in Egyptian religion was quite remarkable and in many respects unusual," writes Jaromir Malek, author of The Cat in Ancient Egypt. "Unlike some other animals, the cat was not primarily associated with an important local deity at the beginning of Egyptian time. It never attained a truly elected 'official' status which would have enabled it to become a full member of the divine community encountered on the walls of Egyptian temples. But in spite of all this, the cat's popularity eventually surpassed that of any other animal and reached far beyond Egypt's boundaries."

The earliest feline cat goddess recorded was called Mafdet and is described in the Pyramid Texts as killing a serpent with her claws. But the most famous cat goddesses in the world, first revered by the ancient Egyptians were Bastet (also known as Bast, Pasch, Ubasti) and the lion-headed Sekhmet.

In other words, as kat says, the cat never became a goddess. The cat was revered as a representation of a goddess, however.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osiris II wrote:
the cat never became a goddess.


Mine seems to be convinced she is though ... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anneke wrote:
Mine seems to be convinced she is though ... Smile


It's not unique to F. cattus. Our Bichon Frise seems to aspire to goddesshood at times...
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