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KV-63 : A new tomb discovered next to King Tut's
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's a feint cartouche here, but it's not the one i was thinking about!!

http://my.opera.com/kv63-kv-63-egipto-egypt/blog/show.dml/172836

here's the one i was thinking about!!

http://www.kv-63.com/photos2009.html
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dig Update



Otto's Dig Diary


15 APRIL 2009
KV10/KV-63’s 2009 Season officially ended March 24th. As always…. time proved too short to accomplish all we had planned to get done, but in spite of that the season was quite fruitful.

http://www.kv-63.com/

See also Anneke's post " Another name from KV 63: Iny"
http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=46804&sid=a167b3c129ece332f4999b2583f7b8e2#46804
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just written a little piece on the mummification bed's new home that readers might find interesting http://luxor-news.blogspot.com/2009/04/kv63-mummification-bed-in-its-new-home.html
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's a great job you've done jane!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting Jane Razz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otto Schaden has posted an update

Otto's Dig Diary

This summer has been especially busy for the KV-63 staff hence this update is rather substantial. It includes:

Dr. Schaden’s newest Dig Diary

A list of new KV-63 articles and publications (see the Publication tab)

Details on the upcoming Howard Carter Symposium (see Lecture tab)

Information on ‘Tutankhamun: The Latest Discovery in the Valley of the Kings and the Egyptological Art of Susan Osgood’ (see Exhibit tab)

30 new images…. including some never before seen (under Photos~2009)
http://www.kv-63.com/photos2009.html

and below the Oct. 4th Update
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A Special Commentary on the Menkheperre Seal by Dr. Otto Schaden
A mud seal bearing the impression of a cartouche of Menkheperre (Thutmosis III) was found in Pot 3 in March of 2006. *A photo of the seal can be found under the 'Photos ~ 2009' tab.

The appearance of a Thutmose III cartouche is, we believe, the result of the use of his famous name on scarabs and seals well beyond his actual period of reign. Late era kings and the Ptolemies were still adding Thutmosis III's images to the walls of Karnak Temple!

The incomplete seal impression is very intriguing, for it is clearly a cartouche, but the only surviving elements are the sun disc (re) and the beetle (kheper). The text has several likely possibilities for restoration ---

It could have been [Men]kheper-Re (Thutmosis III)

or, [Men]khepr[u-]re (Thutmosis. IV)

or, [Neb]kheper-Re (Tut)

or, Kheper-[khepru]re (Ay)


The first two are possible, for we did have a Menkheperre impression in the tomb shaft, and in mixed fill over the East Huts we did have mention of Thutmosis IV on an undated ostracon. The materials in KV-63 could fall into Horemheb's era, but we would expect a djeser sign if Horemheb's name was intended here.

Tutankhamun or Ay (see above) would fit best with the ceramics and other materials found in KV-63. As Tut was followed by Ay, our general dating as "Tut era, give or take a few years" would allow for the restoration of Ay's prenomen here.

The bottom part of the seal is lost. The mud can be fragile and may have disintegrated a long time ago. The shaft, chamber and the storage jars have all been cleared, so there is no chance of finding the missing lower portion of this seal impression.

Photo
http://www.kv-63.com/images/191_7g_sm.jpg

Link with drawings of some of the coffins by Susan Osgood
http://www.susanosgood.com/egypt_archealogical.shtml
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update

Otto's Dig (less) Diary *KV-63 excavation complete
January 2010

Otto's Dig Diary
19 January 2010


http://www.kv-63.com/ottosdigdiary2010.html

Photos January 2010
http://www.kv-63.com/photos2010.html
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otto's Dig (less) Diary *KV-63 excavation complete
2010

Otto's Dig Diary
13 February 2010
http://www.kv-63.com/ottosdigdiary2010.html


Photos February 2010
http://www.kv-63.com/photos2010.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Stephen Cross’ article, the clearing of KV63 and KV55 would have occurred in Ay’s reign, before the flood which buried KV55,62 and 63 in debris (loosely speaking) until modern times, starting with Carter finding KV62.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rozette qunted Schaden (earlier in this thread)

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A few days ago our conservators began removing resin from the lid fragments of Coffin B and the poorly preserved sides of Coffin A?s box - where we have discovered some very interesting texts! After further cleaning we will send a report to Dr. Zahi Hawass and later provide more details in our next Update.
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Source : Otto Schaden
http://www.kv-63.com/


Here, I generalize about some cleaning and conservation as a necessary evil.
Information can be lost when artifacts are cleaned and such loss can be minor or great.
Removal of resin or apparent residues can seem to be only good but the Egyptians applied it with full knowledge that the resin would harden to become a feature.
Why is not always immediately clear to know. Perhaps later it will be learned or it truly might be insignificant. Hopefully excellent documentation will compensate for losses.
How many people for example today know that the staircase of Tutankhamun's tomb contained symbols and information? Where is the staircase today?
Removal of the staircase was demolision but so too can be considered the removal of resin when neither can be restored to be the original condition.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maat wrote:
... Where is the staircase today?
Removal of the staircase was demolision ...

Of the 16 steps, only the first ten had been carved into the rock, while the last six consisted of stones connected with mortar. Probably all 16 steps had originally been carved out of the rock and the last six steps before the first bricking had to be removed to bring large grave goods, such as the gold-plated shrines, into the grave. Another indication that the tomb was not originally intended for the funeral of Tutankhamun.

After the burial, the removed steps were replaced by new ones made of a mortar-stone composite. These steps were removed again in 1930, in the 9th excavation season, in order to be able to bring the walls and ceilings of the dismantled shrines in their transport containers out of the grave.

The staircase is, as far as I remember, still preserved under the modern wooden construction.

Practical archeology is to a certain degree always associated with destruction. A little pregnant does not work ...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is reasonable that some obstructions are demolished in archaeology. My note was to say that information can be present about which an archaeologist might not be aware. Hence, documentation of what is to be destroyed should be excessive especially if the object is thought to be of minor significance. I am aware that Carter removed the original stairs. I did not know that any of the original stairway remains as he found it.
How removal is done is often influenced by what is recognized. Carter did not recognize images composed in the stairway else he would have documemted it more heavily and dismantled it more cautiously to preserve information instead of to collect its blocks.
The damage to the steps in Burton's pictures seemed strange to me. A new tomb with no heavy traffic yet with damaged steps that were buried? There was no space for visitors. Steps to a royal tomb should be pristine. So I examined the steps for months. It had information that now can never be recovered.
Document, record and repeat.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction.
I mistakenly wrote 'demolision' in my previous post where
I should have written 'demolition'.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maat wrote:
... Carter did not recognize images composed in the stairway ...

And not just Carter. Everyone else too, except you, of course ...
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Lutz wrote:
maat wrote:
... Carter did not recognize images composed in the stairway ...

And not just Carter. Everyone else too, except you, of course ...

And? No other person in the world has ever recognized something that was missed by many others?
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