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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a problem with her, returning home as well.
Wasn't a real peaceful situation she returned to in Mitanni: after Tushratta's death a civil war broke out between the different factions of the Mitanni princes. Why go back to this land in such a time? Maybe she could've exerted influence on the power-struggle, but then again, she had spent so many years abroad that it becomes doubtful her stature was still intact.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very true. It's not as though she could have gone to the palace and set things straight.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand, leaving the royal palace like that, would have probably caused some grinding-of-teeth, a nice reason indeed for her removal of official texts and depictions.

On the other other hand though, there were canopic jars made for Kiya, usurped by Smench and the illustrious 'coffin of Achenaton/Smenchkare' was made out of fragments of a coffin to a princess, often suggested as being Kiya... Why getting prepared for burial in Egypt when emigrating to Mitanni?

Not a lot to support the 'back to Mitanni'-theory so it seems.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I think she stayed in Egypt.

Wonder what she did to get people so seemingly PO-ed at her though?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took me fifteen minutes to translate the given 'PO-ed' as the probable "publically offended". *sigh*

Man, I'm a morron...
Any suggestions on why Tadu-khipa would have been called Kiya?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Segereh wrote:
Took me fifteen minutes to translate the given 'PO-ed' as the probable "publically offended". *sigh*

Man, I'm a morron...


Laughing Nah. I've met my share of morons, but you're definitely not one of 'em.

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Any suggestions on why Tadu-khipa would have been called Kiya?


One explanation I've heard is that Tadu-khipa may have been pronounced like Tadu-Kiya, and hence the abbreviation.

Another explanation I've heard is that it is a pet name, something like "Monkey". To send someone into eternity with the name "monkey" seems just a tad cruel though..
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anneke wrote:
Segereh wrote:
Man, I'm a morron...


Laughing Nah. I've met my share of morons, but you're definitely not one of 'em.


Sure? Apparently I even wrote moron like a morron.

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One explanation I've heard is that Tadu-khipa may have been pronounced like Tadu-Kiya, and hence the abbreviation.

Another explanation I've heard is that it is a pet name, something like "Monkey". To send someone into eternity with the name "monkey" seems just a tad cruel though..


Poor little thing, being called Cheetah is just too cool for words. Confused
On the Kiya-pronounciation, it's easy to object why her related Mitanni-princess Gilu-khipa (Both names use 'khipa' or 'heba(t)') didn't get the same name then.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm on a roll with this question Laughing :

Aye had a tomb in Amarna, and he was buried in KV23.
Where was he building his tomb during Tutankhamen's reign?

I'm just hoping for another monument which will give us more information.

Maia, the wet-nurse of Tut had her own tomb, as did Sat-re the wet-nurse of Hatshepsut.
Any chance Tey, wife of Aye, wet-nurse of Nefertiti, had her own tomb?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally I've read that the tomb that Tutankhamun (KV62) was buried in, was in fact the tomb that Ay was preparing for himself.
Indicates what area he considered his rightful buriel place!

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Any chance Tey, wife of Aye, wet-nurse of Nefertiti, had her own tomb?

Would be a very nice find - for sure Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were ahead of me, little kiwi... angry4

I don't know what the thesis is based upon actually, but I've seen most serious sources say this. I won't be a sheep though. Cool

Why is Tut's tomb seen as Aye's original one?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe KV23 wasn't far enough along to allow the burial of Tut?
Maybe KV23 was far enough along, but it was easier to decorate a smaller tomb?
Maybe Aye just got greedy? He saw the chance to usurp a much nicer tomb for himself and took it?

Just 3 theories off the top of my head Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually meant:
Why do archeologists believe KV62 was originally Aye's tomb?

Like, did they find something belonging specifically to Aye over there?
Is there a mentioning anywhere of 'switching tombs'?
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