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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: The ark of the covenant Reply with quote

I hope this doesn't turn into a fiery religious debate...

I've been browsing the internet looking at shops that sell Egyptian stuff. And on several sites they sell an 'Isis box' that looks eerily similar to the ark of the covenant!

This begs the question-is the ark an Egyptian concept? I've seen fringey sites that say that Moses learnt 'Egyptian magic' and one of the things he learnt about was the ark, and that it's design and even it's powers were based on Egyptian magic. (The weirdest theories involve the notion that the Egyptian priests knew advanced science like anti-gravity, nuclear fusion and quantum physics Shocked )

Another idea that popped into my mind when I looked at this image of the box with it's Isis figures was this...it's a wacky theory but here goes: the cherubim on the ark are none other than Isis and Nephtys, and the ark is the box that Osiris was enclosed in! I have seen the term 'ark of Osiris' used in certain places. I know it's a crazy theory and that's because I came up with it Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look at some of the new kingdom sarcophagi, you see Isis and Nephtys with wings, and they are protective goddesses

Horemheb's sarcophagus:


from:http://www.osirisnet.net/tombes/pharaons/horemheb/e_horemheb_part2.php

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Decoration of the sarcophagus: At each end of the long sides are goddesses, their arms outstreched but inclined downwards and supporting large wings. One arm and its wing stretching to the middle of the long side, but not as far as the mid-point; the other stretching along the short side (the end of the sarcophagus) and crossing that of the other goddess. These goddesses are in raised relief. The goddesses are, Isis (north-east corner) facing Neith (north-west corner) and Nephthys (south-east) facing Selkis (south-west).


I think the winged goddess is an old protective symbol that was prevalent in the ancient world. It seems that that may be where the idea of an angel may have developed from.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isisinacrisis, do you have a link to the image? I'd be interested to see it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always thought that was where angels may have come from. The winged representation of Isis is my favourite portrayal of her.

The link: http://www.mandarava.com/Retail/egyptian_frames.htm
scroll down the page and you'll see.

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Isis Trinket Box
This beautiful box is reminicent of tales of the Lost Ark of the covenant. It is said that Moses gained his knowledge of ark technology and design from his tenure in the Egyptian court.


*tries not to think of those scary face melting scenes from Indiana Jones*
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spam???

Seg, that's not nice. I'm only posting information! Is that illegal? Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just kidding, Isi. Sad I'm nice...
It's just that this forum is vèry closely linked to a 'concurrent' e-shop.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed Sorry about that. i only posted the link for the picture and description. Not for advertising purposes whatsoever.

Here's a link for the picture only: http://www.mandarava.com/a1grph/Sgph/S_graphics/SUM5493.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing We can always balance it with some 'local' items:



I just find the different poses interesting. Some have the wings raised, others have them straight out.

There's also this one which is a combination. The goddess Maat protects the cartouche of Nefertari



Note that on the sarcophagus the wings are also pointing down.
I wonder if that is really the protective stance?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compare it to a mother-bird, guarding her nest (wings down) or in full beauty and form (wings up)?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: The ark of the covenant Reply with quote

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I hope this doesn't turn into a fiery religious debate...

I've been browsing the internet looking at shops that sell Egyptian stuff. And on several sites they sell an 'Isis box' that looks eerily similar to the ark of the covenant!


Has anyone read this book entitled "The lost secrets of the sacred Ark: amazing revelations of the incredible power of gold"? Anyway, it discusses superconductive monoatomic gold (white powder gold): a powder discussed in the Book of the coming forth needed to transcend into the afterlife. Anyway the author seems to believe that this powdery substance known as "mfktz" was also known as "manna" the food that came from the sky for the Lost children of Israel. It says that the lost ark, holygrail, and gold are somehow connected. Don't really remember many details but it was certainly interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's the book I hinted at above, that claims the Egyptians knew about quantum physics and science more advanced than ours. Sorry, I'm not sure if I would ever buy into theories like that Confused
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