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Frater0082 · Account Suspended Joined: 03 Jul 2012 Posts: 175

What if Ankhesepaaten Tasherit married Tut instead of her mother Ankhesepaaten senior?

To me it seems to be unlikely that Ankhesepaaten Senior would have married Tut as she would have been 16 years old when Tut came to the throne and Tut would have been at least 8 or 9. which to me would have been too old, and considered the time era they were in she probably was considered a mature adult as tut a boy, so this to me rules her out as Tut's wife.

Ankhesepaaten Tasherit, however, would have been have been right on within Tut's age group being about 5 at the very beginning at Tut's reign. plus if you look at all the depictions of Ankhesepaaten from Tut's tomb she appears to be very young, like a teenager. her mother, however, would be just going into her early twenties, already a mature adult.

As for Tut's death, Why do people assume that Ankhesepaaten was 21 when her husband died. if she was the senior Paaten she would have been 26 years old, thus again ruling senior Paaten out as Tut's wife.

therefore KV21A and KV21B must be Ankhesepaaten Tasherit and Meritaten Tasherit, whom I beleive was a secondary wife to Tut.

Ankhetmaatre · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject:

I very much doubt age would have played an issue. In fact, Ankhesepaaten/Ankhesenamon being older may have been preferable because she would be able to bear children as soon as Tutankhamen reached puberty, which would have been of vital importance in a royal line lacking male heirs.

If he did marry the Tasherit I think it would only be because an elder royal daughter was unavailable.
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Frater0082 · Account Suspended Joined: 03 Jul 2012 Posts: 175

Ankhetmaatre · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:59 pm Post subject:

Actually, there is evidence of her fertility if she was, in fact, the mother of Ankhesepaaten-tasherit. No one would have any reason to think that she wouldn't bear living children to Tutankhamen.
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kylejustin · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:33 am Post subject:

there isn't any actual evidence for the tasherit girls. the theory seems to arise from the fact kiya is shown on monuments followed by a child, and when she died or fell into disgrace, meritaten and ankhesenamun took over her monuments. the recarving was not the best, and traces of kiya's daughter were left on the monuments.

there is no reason to think the ankhesenamun married to tutankhamun was not a daughter of akhenaten and nefertiti. as far as i know, ankhesenamun is a unique name.
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anneke · Queen of Egypt Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 9305

Ankhetmaatre · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject:

I think devil's advocate is a valuable role to play, from time to time, and since you're a queen, Anneke, who better to do so? Wink

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Lutz · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject:

There is no clear evidence of an existence of the two Tascherits. All the inscriptions on the talatat mention them are modified, so-called palimpests. Other findings with their names do not exist. The finds in the tomb of Tutankhamun show not the slightest hint that his Great Royal Wife was not Anchsunamun, the third daughter of Akhenaten and Nefertiti.

Lynda Green : Queens and Princesses of the Amarna Period (1988)

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Frater0082 · Account Suspended Joined: 03 Jul 2012 Posts: 175

Ankhetmaatre · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:59 am Post subject:

What inscriptional evidence there is for the tasherits can be found referenced on this thread; http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=5317&sid=64febc1489976d4ff588f407e93000be
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Lutz · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:38 am Post subject:

Lutz · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:57 am Post subject:

Ankhetmaatre · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:37 am Post subject:

I am making no claim one way or the other. I am simply offing a link with pictures of the inscriptions to Frater0082.
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EgyptianRose · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:44 am Post subject: WHAT!

I am extremely confused! I thought it was pretty well known that King tut married Ankhesenpaaten/Ankhesenamun the daughter of Neferteti and Akhenaten! Not Akhesenpaaten-Tasherit? I thought Ankhesenpaaten-Tasherit and Meritaten-Tasherit were considered to be children of Meritaten and Smenkhkare (If they even existed) or better yet the names of the two still born babies of Tutankhamun and Ankhesenamun (If that's even possible?)? I never thought or ever seen it suggested anywhere that Ankhesenpaaten-Tasherit married King Tutankhamun!? Idea

Also I thought Ankhesenamun and Tutankhamun were five years apart (I read somewhere, I can't remember where) which makes Ankhesenamun fourteen or thirteen when married to Tutankhamun eight or nine and making her twenty four when Tutankhamun died at nineteen and possibly twenty five when she dies and disappears from history!
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