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herper
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| Hawass would never allow further testing if it risked 'proof' of his theories being overturned. Not a very scientific way of doing things. As if mummy identification isn't hard enough. Its a shame multiple tests where not done at different sights at the same time. |
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Lutz
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| herper wrote: | | Hawass would never allow further testing if it risked 'proof' of his theories being overturned. ... |
Hawass is no longer in a position in this regard anyone something to allow or prohibit. And one can only hope that this continues to be so...
However, it probably makes little sense new test to perform, if they also reach even just a degree of decryption of aDNA, that secure statements (mother- / fatherhood) just do not make possible?
Greetings, Lutz.
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Thieuke
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:31 pm Post subject: further testing wanted |
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further DNA testing is wanted. It could clear things up a little better. Also the start of the 18th dynasty and the line of Hatshepsut's parents would be interesting to clear up.
Still DNA can be explained in various ways. Where Hawass and his team saw Achnaten and his sister as Tut's parents based on the DNA evidence others have show that the same DNA could be referring to a brother of Achnaten (Smenkhkare?) and a daughter of Achnaten and a woman related to his grandmother Thuya other than through his mother Tiye (probably Nefertiti being a female line relative of her mother-in-law).
Making a case for Tut's parents being Smenkhkare and Meritaten. |
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Ayrton
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Hi folks.
I am interested in the issue of DNA broadly, but especially in regard to the Amarna royals, and I thought this might be a reasonable thread to post my query on.
Can DNA tests be used as a secure means of separating sibling relationships from Father-Daughter relationships in regards to paternity/maternity? |
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Ayrton
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Hi folks.
I am interested in the issue of DNA broadly, but especially in regard to the Amarna royals, and I thought this might be a reasonable thread to post my query on.
Can DNA tests be used as a secure means of separating sibling relationships from Father-Daughter relationships in regards to paternity/maternity? |
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Sobek
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| Ayrton wrote: | | Can DNA tests be used as a secure means of separating sibling relationships from Father-Daughter relationships in regards to paternity/maternity? |
Yes. DNA tests can even identify 'chimeras' (one person with two distinct DNA profiles). |
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Sobek
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According to Habicht et al, 2016 the idea that Yuya is a brother of Thutmose IV is proposed in Gabolde, 2013.
What Gabolde, 2013 actually says (translated to English) is " ... It is hardly conceivable that Yuya is a brother of Thutmose IV."
Has Marc Gabolde changed his mind about this since 2013? |
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kylejustin
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| Sobek wrote: | According to Habicht et al, 2016 the idea that Yuya is a brother of Thutmose IV is proposed in Gabolde, 2013.
What Gabolde, 2013 actually says (translated to English) is " ... It is hardly conceivable that Yuya is a brother of Thutmose IV."
Has Marc Gabolde changed his mind about this since 2013? |
If yuya was a brother of thutmose IV, assuming they shared the same father, yuya and amenhoyep III would share the same y dna profile. Since this would have been mentioned in the dna results, i would exclude this possibility. Possibly they share the same mother, but as i have read, yuya and mutemwia are always linked as siblings. I think this is one of aldred's theories.
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kylejustin
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| Sobek wrote: | According to Habicht et al, 2016 the idea that Yuya is a brother of Thutmose IV is proposed in Gabolde, 2013.
What Gabolde, 2013 actually says (translated to English) is " ... It is hardly conceivable that Yuya is a brother of Thutmose IV."
Has Marc Gabolde changed his mind about this since 2013? |
If yuya was a brother of thutmose IV, assuming they shared the same father, yuya and amenhoyep III would share the same y dna profile. Since this would have been mentioned in the dna results, i would exclude this possibility. Possibly they share the same mother, but as i have read, yuya and mutemwia are always linked as siblings. I think this is one of aldred's theories.
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