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evarelap
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 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:31 pm Post subject: Carter 001K |
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Two quick questions about Carter 001K:
1) Does Nefernefuruaten's prenom appear in the female form Ankhkheperure? or as Ankh-et-keperure?
William J. Murnane, "Texts from the Amarna Period" (1995), pp. 205-206, translates it as "Ankhkheperure", but this book was published in 1995 so long ago. Is this correct?
2) If Meritaten is called "King's Chief Wife" (is she?), whose king's wife is she? Nefernefuruaten? |
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Lutz
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Horst Beinlich / Mohamed Saleh : Corpus der Hieroglyphischen Inschriften aus dem Grab des Tutanchamun. - Oxford : Griffith Institute, 1989. - ISBN : 090041653X. - XVI, 282 p. - Page 4:
| evarelap wrote: | | 1) Does Nefernefuruaten's prenom appear in the female form Ankhkheperure? or as Ankh-et-keperure? |
"Ankh-Cheperu-Ra Mery Nefer-Cheperu-Ra", so it is the "male" form. "Ankh(et)-Cheperu-Ra" is the "female" form.
| evarelap wrote: | | 2) If Meritaten is called "King's Chief Wife" (is she?), whose king's wife is she? Nefernefuruaten? |
Before the cartouche of Meritaton we find the title "Hemet Nesu Weret" - "Wife of the King, the Great" (green rectangle). The yellow rectangle inside is the word "Weret" - "Great".
The red rectangle before the throne name of Akhenaton ("Nefer-Cheperu-Ra Wa-En-Ra") is the short form for the word "Maa Cheru" - "Justified". This indicates that Akhenaton is called deceased.
Greetings, Lutz.
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Lutz
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Lutz wrote: | | ... The red rectangle before the throne name of Akhenaton ("Nefer-Cheperu-Ra Wa-En-Ra") is the short form for the word "Maa Cheru" - "Justified". This indicates that Akhenaton is called deceased. |
After another reflection, and with look at the anch-sign before it, I think it would rather be the formulation "who lives of / in truth". "Maa-Cheru" one founds usually at the end of a sentence or direct behind the name. Maybe someone who really knows what he is talking about   , can tell us the "truth"? 
The introduction before the throne name would be then as follows: "King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Who Lives from / in Truth, Lord of the Two Lands" ?
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evarelap
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Thank you Lutz very useful information...
Always wondered why there is a box in KV62 naming two kings and a chief king's wife.
Probably the royal family at the time the box was made. |
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Aset
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| Lutz wrote: |
After another reflection, and with look at the anch-sign before it, I think it would rather be the formulation "who lives of / in truth". "Maa-Cheru" one founds usually at the end of a sentence or direct behind the name. Maybe someone who really knows what he is talking about , can tell us the "truth"?
The introduction before the throne name would be then as follows: "King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Who Lives from / in Truth, Lord of the Two Lands" ? |
nsw.t-bjt anx-m-mAa.t nb tA.wj (nfr-xpr-w-ra.w wa-n-Ra)|
sA-Ra anx-m-mAa.t nb-xa.w (Ax-n-Jtn)|
King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Living in Truth, Lord of the Two Lands, Neferkheperure-waenre ("Beautiful are the Forms of Re, the Unique one of Re")
Son of Re, Living in Truth, Lord of Appearances, Akhenaten ("Effective for Aten")
Aset
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Hm.t-nsw.t-wr.t - Great Royal Wife |
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Thanks Aset !
| Aset wrote: | | ... PS: Hm.t-nsw.t-wr.t - Great Royal Wife |
Demand ... I see only one "t" (Gardiner X 1)? Also Hannig gives at different points in the dictionary "hemet-nesu" ...
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