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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: A rather controversial topic... Reply with quote

I have a feeling I'm going to be posting a few more controversial/thought provoking topics soon because I've been seeing a lot of stuff recently that i need to get other's opinions on...

Ok, here's the question: I know the Egyptians sacrificed animals but did they sacrifice people too???

Disturbing thought, I know...but i did read something on a website today that I never heard of before and that disturbed me...it said that the priests of Isis used to drown virgin girls in the Nile to encourage flooding!!! I thought it was ludicrous (and I think this is from one of those fundamentalist/conspiracy sites anyway and they tend to be very biased) but what do you think? Has anyone else heard of this?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if this counts but they did publicly execute prisoners.

I'll have to check my books for references.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know they used to chop the heads/hands off prisoners and foreign enemies but that's not human sacrifice really, that's more like capital/corporal punishment.

But I just want to know if this drowning thing is true...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never heard of sacrifice involving drowning. What's the story behind that? Which god or goddess was that associated with?

The only other thing I can think of is that I believe the Hyksos sacrificed people. But it depends on if you want to count them as Egyptian or not. Smile
I think they found human remains in the foundations for certain large buildings. (Sorry my memory is a bit vague on this.)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the site I saw this on, it was the 'priests of Isis' who drowned virgins to 'invoke the Nile flood'. It's the first time I heard about it too.
But, as I said before, the person writing it was probably biased and these people tend to get facts wrong...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an extensive article on the subject. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[b][i]Here's an extensive article on the subject.

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=websearch&requestId=1fba6365fbbdd7b3&clickedItemRank=2&userQuery=human+sacrifice+in+egypt&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.touregypt.net%2Ffeaturestories%2Fhumansac.htm

Shocked Rolling Eyes Shocked Rolling Eyes Shocked Rolling Eyes Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting article. I do now remember reading about the retainers being buried with some of the 1st dynasty kings and Queens.

What was with the "Shocked Rolling Eyes Shocked Rolling Eyes etc"?
(Just curious)

TourEgypt is usually pretty accurate. I don't have time to read the entire article on the spot, but I will definitely go back and read it at a more leasurely pace. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting the article!
Maybe this thing about drowning virgins really is just rubbish...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a site does not site sources best not even look at the information. It is hard to know where it is coming, internet is a big place it is easy to get misdirected.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sounds to me to be very primitive, maybe something that nomadic tribes were known to do. I heard that some tribes would sacrifice virgins to their crocodile god. Alas, the source doesn't say much of where. The theme of sacrificing virgins comes up a lot in history, and is easily exaggerated and used for conspiracy theories, as well. I think this is, because we don't know much of the religions of history. I know in the Andes, they brought "the chosen" babes to be sacrificed on top of the mountain.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lexikon der Ägyptologie. - Wiesbaden : Harrassowitz, 1982. - Vol. IV : Col. 498 - 500. - Ricardo A. Caminos : Nilopfer.




Ghada Abdel Hafeez : The Nile Bride Myth "Revisioned" in Nubian Literature. - In: Dotawo - A Journal of Nubian Studies 5. - 2018. - pp. 167 - 191.
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Page 168: ... In the Nile cult, the Nile Bride myth or Arous el Nil refers to the practice of casting into the Nile / Hapy a beautiful young virgin as a sacrifice in order to obtain a plentiful inundation, ensure his bounteous yearly coming and avoid his wrath. Among historians and Egyptologists, however, this myth is highly controversial.
Many have rejected it vehemently, as they claim there have been neither Pharaonic nor Coptic sources that allude to human sacrifices.
Others postulate the possibility of human sacrifice based on the Hymn to the Nile, which has references to offerings and to a great festival or sacrifice for the river and the wooden statuettes called “Wives of the Nile” or “concubines of Hapy,” which were seen as representation of “human sacrifices in a symbolic form.” ...

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