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Demonstrative pronouns and indirect genitive forms

 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Demonstrative pronouns and indirect genitive forms Reply with quote

Hello!

I have several questions about Middle Egyptian demonstrative pronouns and indirect genitive constructions.

The phrase "lord of this estate" can be written as nb n spAt tn (from Allen 3rd edition, Exercise 5.1.g).
The phrase "this lord of estate" can be written as nb pn n spAt (by analogy to jrt tn nt Hrw on p. 66).

The plural of nb pn ("this lord") is formed using the neutral demonstrative pronoun within the indirect genitive construction: nn n nb(w) ("these lords").

1. How would the above two phrases be converted to plural? Can one "chain" indirect genitives?

2. Would nbw nw nn n spAwt be correct for "lords of these estates"?
3. Would nn n nb n(w?) spAwt be correct for "these lords of estates"?

(In the last phrase I used nn n nb in singular to mean "these lords" (plural), I could have also written nn n nbw, wouldn't make any difference, I presume).

Furthermore, we can talk about estates, not lords.

The phrase "estate of this lord" can, presumably, be written as spAt nt nb pn.
The phrase "this estate of lord" can, presumably, be written as spAt tn nt nb.

4. How would these be converted to plural?

5. Would spAwt nt nn n nbw be correct for "estates of these lords"?
6. Would nn n spA(w)t nt nbw be correct for "these estates of lords"?

These all phrases (2, 3, 5, 6) look rather strange.

7. Or, if this is all wrong, how would one write this? (at least without using plural demonstrative nbw ipn for "these lords", which sounds rather archaic)

Thanks for any feedback!
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