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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the reconstruction can be very good, but the person reconstructing the face should not have any preconceived notions of what the person would look like.


This is exactly the concern people have when they're wondering about the actual physical appearance of human remains in their possession. So when they approach one of these forensic artists, they'll often just hand over the skull and say little more, leaving it to the artist to go at his or her work without any preconceived notions. This is becoming a fairly common technique within the forensic science community, and these specialist artists have done wonders in helping to identify the remains of murdered people whose bodies have been reduced to bones.

I have heard of that very book you mentioned, anneke. It sounds very interesting. I've done a fair amount of reading of the forensic anthropology field--anthro and archaeology were my minors my first time through college--and it is simply amazing what these people can do with a few human bones. So it's a natural that archaeologists use forensic artists, too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like a very interesting book, where did you get it? I find that sort of thing pretty fascinating, but then again I'm easily amused!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The book is "Making Faces" by John Prag and Richard Neave.
I bought it at amazon.com.

The book gives a history of facial reconstruction, discusses the techniques used and then gives examples.

There are some facial reconstructions of egyptian mummies: mummy Manchester 1770, Natsef-Amun, and the brothers Khnum-Nakht and Nekht-Ankh.

There are also reconstructions of King Philip II of Macedon, King Midas, some remains from Mycenae, a priest and priestess from Crete and some bog bodies.

It's a fascinating book.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went looking for it after anneke's post, and I think this is it (the Amazon link):

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679878211/qid=1112416108/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/102-8822786-2904954?v=glance&s=books

No, wait, I think this is the right one: Very Happy

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0890967849/qid%3D1112416179/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/102-8822786-2904954

How about it, anneke? Which of these two might it be?
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LOL I figured one of them had to be funny Laughing

I will leave it up to you to guess which one I own Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of plastic surgery... Did the Egyptians perform surgeries? I know in Peru they would bore holes in a patient's head to relieve them of dieases or illnesses. I don't know much about the procedure, but they did do it. The evidence is found on the skulls of ancient skeletons, where there would be artificial holes bored in their head.

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Don't know what time period this one is from, but the pose is unusual.
http://www.molon.de/galleries/Egypt/NatMuseum/Statues/img.php?pic=15


Looking at this sculpture, it seems to have a weird effect, with the lighting. It looks like it was photoshopped. The statue seems to rest in a space of its own, very strange.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="dzama923"]... On another note...
Anneke said:
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Don't know what time period this one is from, but the pose is unusual.
http://www.molon.de/galleries/Egypt/NatMuseum/Statues/img.php?pic=15

Statue of the Vizier Hor (22. Dynastie, Karnak Cachette, Cairo JE 37512, H: 96 cm). No photoshop, this sitting posture is not special or unusual. Examples are known (starting in the OK) from all periods of Egyptian history. See for other examples "Catalogue général des antiquités égyptiennes du Musée du Caire".
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