Egyptian Dreams

[anneke]

Baketaten is a princess associated with Tiye at Amarna.

In Lepsius's book there is a drawing depicting a baketaten, but this one is depicted as an adult!
http://edoc3.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/books/2003/lepsius/page/abt3/band6/image/03061000.jpg

I couldn't post the image because it's waaaay to big. But if Baketaten is depicted here as an adult, then the eldest daughters of Akhenaten and Nefertiti may also be older than we think.
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[anneke]

This still puzzles me. I have only ever seen line drawings of the scene where a statue is made of Baketaten. In the modern drawings she's depicted as a girl with a side-lock. In this drawing she has long hair.
In other inscriptions Baketaten is shown as roughly same age as the eldest Amarna Princesses. If the Princesses were also older than we think, then we get a stronger argument for a co-regency I think.

It's a lot to base on one line drawing, but I got the impression that the work in Lepsius' Denkmahler was considered very accurate.

Any thoughts?

Considering my experience with looking for certain persons, it's always possible this is a different scene and there were two Baketatens
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[Hathorhotep]

I'm interested in beauty of ancient princesses - were Nefertiti's daughters beautiful (as Ankhsenamun) or no?
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[Orwell]

Is baketaten Amenophis III and Tiye's daughter? And born after the 'change' to Atenism while Amenhotep III was still alive? Or was her name changed 'after' the 'change' to Atenism?

If she is their daughter:

Is she the only daughter of Amengotep III and Tiye to live at Akhetaten?

Could she be Younger Lady KV35? A quite a lot younger sister of Akhenaten, maybe, about Meritaten's age?


Could she be the Lady who (apparently) died in child birth depicted on the walls of the Amarna Tomb with Akhenaten and Nefertiti shown mourning her death?

I think I saw this 'death in childbirth' idea raised in "Nefertiti"by Joyce Tyldesley. I think she guesses the deceased as someone else from memory. Could it be one of Akhenaten's "Lesser Wives", i.e. his little "Sister", Baketaten? (KV55 mummy and YL KV35?)



If there are citations to all this wild speculating somewhere, please let me know, guys. I'm happy to look them up.


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[Orwell]

Jpyce Tyldesley "Nefertiti, 205 Edition pp. 162-163. She theorizes the death of "Kiya".

But why not "Baketaten"? Tiye's daughter. Akhenaten's sister and otherwise unrecorded "Lesser Wife"? She would not have to be Meritaten's age (thereabouts). She could be quite a few years older. Nefertiti as Akhenaten's Chief Wife would be Mother of the firect heirs (Meritaten etc), but Beketaten's son, Tutankhamen, would certainly be a strong potential heir.

Beketaten appears to be stronly linked to Akhetaten, and Akhenaten, and Tiye. There is even at least one depiction of them together in Akhetaten, isn't there?


Remember guys, just an "idea" - not exactly a 'theory' yet. But it does seem kind of neat. I mean, Beketaten might not even have been listed on a monument as a "Lesser Wife" before she died? Even Hawass couldn't disagree with all this, could her?

And I'm sure someone's already posited the idea somewhere. So, point out the citation as I couldn't find it before I posted.



NB Old Mad Velikowski even suggested that Akhenaten had a child with Tiye! That would make him both her Father and her Brother, wuldn't it? Mmmm...? I think I'll stick on my crash helmet and body armour now - just in case.

[Lutz]

[Lutz]

[Orwell]

[Lutz]

[Orwell]

Plausible 'ideas' only when placed against the little I know from the few books and internet articles I've read. Maybe as I chip away some archeological evidence will support my positings, Lutz.

[Meretseger]

Since Baketaten is the only daughter of Amenhotep III and Tiye known to have been at Akhetaten she strikes me as a good candidate for KV35YL and Tut's mother. It would certainly be simpler if KV55, Tut's father, was Akhenaten because certainly there would be nothing unusual about him taking a sister as a secondary wife (appropo of that there is a wine docket indicating it came from the estate of a lady titled simply 'The King's Wife'. Nefertiti and her daughters all owned estates in their names and Kiya's was known as the estate of the Favorite so this is an unknown lady wife who *could* have been Baketaten.

However as I have made clear I am not comfortable with the special pleading necessary to make the KV55 remains of a suitable age for Akhenaten which in turn indicates a more complex story. Possibly a deliberate strategy on the part of Queen Tiye to create an alternate line of succession by marrying her youngest son to her youngest daughter?

[Meretseger]

[neseret]

[Lutz]

[Orwell]