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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:32 pm    Post subject: Mummy on board Titanic ? Reply with quote

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Anyone ever here this story ?
Notsure if Id believe but you'd have to wonder.
Anyway its a good Ghost story !

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The Princess of Amen-Ra:

Of all tales of the supernatural, this one is perhaps the best documented, the most disturbing and the most difficult to explain....

The Princess of Amen-Ra lived some 1,500 yrs before Christ. When she died, she was laid in an ornate wooden coffin and buried deep in a vault at Luxor, on the banks of the Nile. In the late 1890s, 4 rich young Englishmen visiting the excavations at Luxor were invited to buy an exquisitely fashioned mummy case containing the remains of Princess of Amen-Ra. They drew lots. The man who won paid several thousand pounds and had the coffin taken to his hotel. A few hours later, he was seen walking out towards the desert. He never returned.

The next day, one of the remaining 3 men was shot by an Egyptian servant accidentally. His arm was so severely wounded it had to be amputated. The 3rd man in the foursome found on his return home that the bank holding his entire savings had failed. The 4th guy suffered a severe illness, lost his job and was reduced to selling matches in the street. Nevertheless, the coffin reached England (causing other misfortunes along the way), where it was bought by a London businessman.

After 3 of his family members had been injured in a road accident and his house damaged by fire, the businessman donated it to the British Museum.


As the coffin was being unloaded from a truck in the museum courtyard, the truck suddenly went into reverse and trapped a passer-by. Then as the casket was being lifted up the stairs by 2 workmen, 1 fell and broke his leg. The other, apparently in perfect health, died unaccountably two days later.

Once the Princess was installed in the Egyptian Room, trouble really started. Museum's night watchmen frequently heard frantic hammering and sobbing from the coffin. Other exhibits in the room were also often hurled about at night. One watchman died on duty; causing the other watchmen wanting to quit. Cleaners refused to go near the Princess too. When a visitor derisively flicked a dustcloth at the face painted on the coffin, his child died of measles soon afterwards.

Finally, the authorities had the mummy carried down to the basement. Figuring it could not do any harm down there. Within a week, one of the helpers was seriously ill, and the supervisor of the move was found dead on his desk.

By now, the papers had heard of it. A journalist photographer took a picture of the mummy case and when he developed it, the painting on the coffin was of a horrifying, human face. The photographer was said to have gone home then, locked his bedroom door and shot himself.

Soon afterwards, the museum sold the mummy to a private collector. After continual misfortune (and deaths), the owner banished it to the attic.


A well known authority on the occult, Madame Helena Blavatsky, visited the premises. Upon entry, she was sized with a shivering fit and searched the house for the source of "an evil influence of incredible intensity". She finally came to the attic and found the mummy case. "Can you exorcise this evil spirit ?" asked the owner.


"There is no such thing as exorcism. Evil remains evil forever. Nothing can be done about it. I implore you to get rid of this evil as soon as possible."


But no British museum would take the mummy; the fact that almost 20 people had met with misfortune, disaster or death from handling the casket, in barely 10 yrs, was now well known. Eventually, a hard-headed American archaeologist (who dismissed the happenings as quirks of circumstance), paid a handsome price for the mummy and arranged for its removal to New York .

In Apr 1912, the new owner escorted its treasure aboard a sparkling, new White Star liner about to make its maiden voyage to New York. On the night of Apr 14, amid scenes of unprecedented horror, the Princess of Amen-Ra accompanied 1,500 passengers to their deaths at the bottom of the Atlantic.


The name of the ship was Titanic.




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way I kno I posted this twice ! It woz an accident ! Oops !
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I removed the double post.

And if you move down a couple of threads in the forum you will find that we discussed this not too long ago Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought we laid to rest this in the first round mentioned by anneke. Clearly, these legends live on and on!

There was NO mummy on the Titanic! There was NO mummy-case or coffin!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another improbable feature of the story is that the British Museum sold it to a private collector. That is simply not within the museum's remit.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than Egypt, my other interest is ocean liners. And I can tell you that there is absolutely no mention of a mummy being onboard Titanic. There are known cargo lists and this definately would have been more famous had it been there. So In my opinion this is no more than an odd myth.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but it's funny how myths turn into "facts" in the minds of so many people. In this day and age of fast-food media, if something sounds sexy or intriguing, it's taken as gospel. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard that ghost story...a couple times actually. A lot of the time it is told in a longer version though. I also saw it on a cartoon a long long time ago. The scariest one to me is bloody mary. I'm still too scared to say her name in front of a mirror in the dark!

And yes, it does seem like these legends live on and on, but I never get tired of hearing them. I love ghost stories, but only when I'm with my friends.

The titanic does intrest me, but it is just such a sad story...whenever I hear of it I cry for jack and rose... Crying or Very sad ...anyways Smile , I thought that some of the people on the titanic became mummies or something, but I could be very wrong. Or maybe it was just that their bones were in very good shape.

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In this day and age of fast-food media, if something sounds sexy or intriguing, it's taken as gospel.


Is that such a bad thing? Wink

(Just kidding, but honestly, if you have read the bible, it sounds a lot like a fairytale to me.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I thought that some of the people on the titanic became mummies or something, but I could be very wrong. Or maybe it was just that their bones were in very good shape.


The people who sank with the Titanic became, if anything, fish food. There have never been any human remains found in or around the wreck. The closest you could come is shoes and tattered clothes.

The Museum of Science and Industry has had two fantastic exhibits on the Titanic, and personally I'm hoping for a third though I have no idea if such a thing is even in the works.

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LOL Yes, it is! The media much of the time seem to regurgitate myths or gossip or whatever the fashion might be at the moment. I'm not bitter, am I? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much is a newspaper of the titanic from 1912 worth? I just found it. it's from my great grandmother house, some how made it to my grandparents house when she moved, and now made it to my house when my grandparents are moving. they left it on the back porch with a bunch of other stuff they don't want. it's from 1912 and is about the titanic (on the front page) and it tells what happened and has a picture, all in black and white.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check this out:
Unlucky Mummy

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between 04 February to 27 May 2007 along with 271 pieces the 'Unlucky Mummy' was exhibited at Taiwan's National Palace Museum during a press conference


And I was at work during that time:cry:... but I found this:
In Pursuit of Immortality: the Artistic Spirit of Ancient Egyptian Culture
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard of this before. when the "story" was made into a documentary a while back, there was a distinct lact of factual evidence.

the impression i got was something like:

..Maybe the lost wisdom of Thoth was on the titanic. also the map of Disney Land and the Holy Grail. Oh and a mummy.

Didnt seem too realistic at the time, but who knows...?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Styler78 wrote:
I have heard of this before. when the "story" was made into a documentary a while back, there was a distinct lact of factual evidence.


As is the case with most "this caused the sinking of the Titanic" stories: always that distinct lack of factual evidence.

I've seen the "Unlucky Mummy" many times at the BM: haven't fared any the worse for it. It's actually, as the BM article (below) says, a fine example of 21st Dynasty funereal artwork, in the "yellow coffin case" style.

Of course, once you get Blavatsky into the picture, all sorts of supernatural bits and bobs are going to start up. Most of these things come about since many people believe that Egyptian funereal objects are somehow cursed and we're not supposed to look upon them.

Nothing could be further from the truth, of course, as ancient Egyptians expected their loved ones to visit them in their tombs, at least annually during the Feast of the Beautiful Valley (think of it as a picnic with your loved ones who've gone on before you (Manniche 1997)) - but why mess up a great media gig which started in the 19th century and reached a fever pitch with the discovery of Tutankhamun's tomb(Randi 1978; Day 2006)?

British Museum Article on the "Unlucky Mummy"

Reference:

Day, J. 2006. The Mummy's Curse: Mummymania in the English-speaking World. London: Routledge.

Karkowski, J. 1979. The Question of the Beautiful Feast of the Valley Representations in Hatshepsut's Temple at Deir el-Bahari. In W. F. Reineke, ed., First International Congress of Egyptology - Actes. Premier Congrès International d'Égyptologie - Akten. Erster Internationaler Ägyptologenkongress - al-Mu’tamar al-dawlī al-awwal li-al-Miṣriyyāt – Waṯā’iq, Cairo - Le Caire - Kairo - al-Qāhira, October 2-10, 1976: 359-364. Schriften zur Geschichte and Kultur des Alten Orients 14. Berlin: Akademie-Verlag.

Manniche, L. 1997. Reflections on the banquet scene. In R. Tefnin, ed., La peinture égyptienne ancienne. Un monde de signes à préserver. Actes du Colloque international de Bruxelles, avril 1994: 29-36. Monumenta Aegyptiaca 7. Brussels: Fondation Égyptologique Reine Élisabeth.

Naguib, S.-A. 1990. Le clergé féminin d'Amon thébain à la 21e dynastie. Orientalia Lovaniensia Analecta 38. Leuven: Peeters/Departement Oriëntalistiek. (On the role of female clergy of the cult of Amun and their role in the Feast of the Beautiful Valley.)

Randi, J. 1978. King Tut's "Revenge." The Humanist (Buffalo, N.Y.) 38/ 2 (March/April 1978): 44-47.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:25 am    Post subject: Cool story Reply with quote

Ace story, wonder what happened to the photo. Must've been a really freaky face to make him shoot himself.

I was reading in "Awesome Egyptians" (which I've had for about 10 years so I've read it like 30 times) that when the Titanic was sinking some passangers saw a Mummy standing on deck!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Cool story Reply with quote

Sobek101 wrote:
Ace story, wonder what happened to the photo. Must've been a really freaky face to make him shoot himself.

I was reading in "Awesome Egyptians" (which I've had for about 10 years so I've read it like 30 times) that when the Titanic was sinking some passangers saw a Mummy standing on deck!


That ship was sinking, people were fighting for their lives and some saw a mummy standing on the deck? Come on, give me a break!
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