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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Strange image of Osiris? Reply with quote

I came across this image of Osiris:


Any idea where Osiris was depicted like this?
What time period?

I have to admit I keep laughing when I see this toad-faced image. Bit of a drag-queen get-up as well....

Any information?
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

could it be a late periode? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had been wondering the same thing. Maybe very late or even Roman period?
I comes from a Dover book of egyptian designs and the other designs seem to be authentic. Otherwise I might have assumed that someone had made it up Smile

It's rather strange depiction of Osiris, but the djed-pillar as a head is something I have seen before. But the robe is definitely very odd.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the same depiction alongside two others:

http://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed/3osirisdjeds.gif

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Ba-Neb-Djed
The backbone of Osiris was found at a place called Djedet, the Greek Mendes....The god of the city was the sacred ram called Ba-Neb-Djed, meaing 'Ram, Lord of the Djed'....The god was wrshipped as a form of Khnum and was also identified with Osiris. A local form of Osiris was made by merging with the Ram as 'Osiris the Ram, Lord of the Djedu'....The Djed is occasionally depicted surmounted by Ram horns, thereby associating it with the Ram of Mendes in the form of Ba-Neb-Djedu. The Ram horns are a common feature on the crown of Osiris and at times he is described as being two horned, tall of crown and of having great presence in Djedu.


Quote taken from here:
http://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed

It doesn't actually say which period this particular depiction of Osiris is from or a particular area, just that it's associated with Khnum.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing that Very Happy
Ba-Neb-Djed(u) or Ba-Neb-Tet is the god referred to as the Ram of Mendes according to some of the Roman historians. (I'm reading this from Budge).

The egyptian historian Manetho claims that the cult of the Ram of Mendes was established by Kakau, a king of the 2nd dynasty.

The other two images provided above are more along the lines of what I would expect to see in an egyptian deity.

Apparently the ram of Mendes was a special ram which had a similar cultic value as the Apis bull. A real animal was kept at the temple and was thought to be the living embodyment of the god?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok.. that looks weird. I think I prefer the Egyptian drawings of him Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just off the top of my head, the spotted robe He's wearing reminds me of the leopard skin worn by a Sem priest. If this is indeed a Roman-era image, perhaps the Roman artist was emphasizing the funerary nature of this god?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osiris looks so much better in his original, funky drawings.. His hat is so cool.

[img] http://www.egiptologia.com/ninyos/dioses/osiris/04.jpg[/img]
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

His 'hat' is the Atef Crown, basically the White Crown of Lower Egypt flanked by two plumes, and in this picture, with the addition of a small solar disk.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol I know about the crowns of Upper/Lower Egypt and the mixed one, but I prefer calling it a hat. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osiris is a amazing God innit Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Pharaoh had several different crowns. The five we are most familiar with are here:
http://www.egyptologyonline.com/pharaoh's_crowns.htm

To read an introduction describing the different crowns worn, see here:
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/crownsofegypt.htm

It can be a very fascinating study. There were so many, and (I'm sure) made of some strange materials. It's funny that more haven't been found--perhaps the crown was handed down in generations.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe Osiris rocks Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've seen every one of them hats except for the war one. I don't like calling them crowns anyway cos even though calling them hats is historically incorrect, it's a preference of mine..
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