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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Tey, wife of Aye Reply with quote

Does anyone have information about this woman?

All I know about her is that:
She was married to Aye.
She was wet-nurse to Nefertiti.
She seemed to play a prominent role in Aye's Amarna tomb.
I believe she was depicted in Aye's tomb in the Valley of the Kings (KV23)

Where was she buried though?
Have any of her funerary goods ever been found?
Are there any exampes of personal items ever been found? Kohl tube? Jewelry? etc.
Is there any indication where she was from?
She may have been Mutnodjemet's mother. But I don't think there is any inscriptional evidence for that.
Was the General Nakhtmin her son?

Besides being wet-nurse to Nefertiti, did she have other roles she played? Priestess???
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Her titles seem to include:

1. Lady of House
2. Great favorite of Waenre (Akhenaton)
3. Favorite of Great Royal Wife (Nefertiti)
4. Ornament of King (lady of the harem - lady-in-waiting?)
5. Great nurse
6. Nurse of the Great Real Wife, Nefertiti
7. Tutor of the goddess (queen Nefertiti)

Her name is sometimes given as Tia.
The hieroglyphics are what looks like a crook, followed by 2 feathers.

See this site for some info and pictures:
http://inicia.es/de/alex_herrero_pardo/Tia.htm
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a statue of Yii, Second Prophet of Amun.

He is the son of Nakhtmin and Mutemnebut.
Mutemnebut is the "Sister of the Great Royal Wife".

Yii's titles are:
1. Royal Scribe,
2. Second Prophet of Amón
3. First Prophet of Mut.
4. Intendant of the dominion of (the queen) Tiye in the dominion of Amón

This means that Mutemnebut may be the sister of Tey and hence sister-in-law of Aye.

There are some other interpretations possible however.
Mutemnebut is the sister of some Great Royal Wife. That could be Nefertiti, Ankhesenamun, or Tey.
All of Ankhesenamun's sisters are known, so that leaves most likely Nefertiti or Tey. (Making her the sister of Tiye seems a stretch)

Yii seems to belong to a slightly later time period (the statue was dated to the reign of Aye), which makes Tey the likely sister to Mutemnebut.

From http://inicia.es/de/alex_herrero_pardo/Yii.htm
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're way too fond of family histories like these. Cool
I think they're intresting, but a little too complex, having few sources to go on.
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Segereh wrote:
You're way too fond of family histories like these. Cool

That's a matter of perspective my dear. I would say you're not fond enough of them Shocked

I think there's something to be learned from them, besides I like the human element it gives to archeology.
They were living breating people with families, and most likely a fair share of nepotism Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here, it's not like I don't like em but they get me confused rather than informed most of the time Smile

Got to know me, I hate chaos in my mind Cool
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Got to know me, I hate chaos in my mind Cool

LOL don't become a mathematician then Laughing


I did just want to bring up Yii's statue because I don't think it's that well known, and it does add a teeny bit to the picture.
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love that site by the way, though I only got to read it in English after I changed my google (Belgian version doesn't translate, silly me)...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's a matter of perspective my dear. I would say you're not fond enough of them

Laughing I'm with you on this one - I love the families. They bring this whole era to life and makes it more personal. Gives more meaning for me when I see statues or paintings if you know (or think you know) a little of who they were related to, and if perhaps their more powerful relatives may have affected their careers.

Looking at that site, it shows a good example of Tey suffering damaged to her eyes, nose and mouth.
I wonder if her title 'Tutor to the goddess' is something similar to the 'divine father' that we talked about before?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all: Hail to the Queen!
I'm reading a little up on titles and religious and politic functions, I'll try to make a thread about it soon - if no-one beats me to it...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be nice. I always wondered what some of the titles meant. "right hand of the King" , "Fanbearer".
I know "fanbearer" indicates that he bore a fan Laughing Cool But there must have been more to it. The title seemed to be carried with pride and just waving fresh air to the King doesn't seem like such a big deal...

Still waiting to find the official "wiper of the royal behind" somewhere...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Actually, some time ago ses and me discussed the title 'Gods hand'.
This appears to have been given to women only.
Would be quite dubious to have one of those, attached to the reverence of Min.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read about that. As consort of Amun, this did seem to allude to you know what. Wink
(trying to keep it PG here.)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't I live back then? Crying or Very sad
With my golden locks I was bound to be revered...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anneke wrote
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Still waiting to find the official "wiper of the royal behind" somewhere...

Laughing Maybe thats the 'Righthand of the King'

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Why don't I live back then?
With my golden locks I was bound to be revered...

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Anneke wrote
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I know "fanbearer" indicates that he bore a fan But there must have been more to it. The title seemed to be carried with pride and just waving fresh air to the King doesn't seem like such a big deal...

Laughing I don't actually know, but I always imagined it had something to do with the way a god is depicted holding the ankh (hmm seemed to be obsessed with ankhs at the moment) to the mouth of a person. The fan bearer on the right (side of prestige) moves the air/ or breath of life to the king.
Probably really means something more honourary, since the holders of the title are high ranking officials who must have better things to do than wave a fan about Wink
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