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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Looking for information about an Ashmolean statue Reply with quote

I'm looking for information about a statue from the Ashmolean Museum.

See link : http://www.desheret.org/photogallery/photo00003380/Ashmolean24.jpg
Thanks to Djedi (Pr Kmt)
http://www.desheret.org/

In my book
La Statuaire Egyptienne
Tome III
Les Grandes Epoques
La Statuaire
Pl. CXIV : 4-5
J. Vandier

I found two small photographs of this statue and the museum number 1924.162, but no explanation further about this statue.

The statue has a back pillar, on which a text and 5 cartouches are engraved. The pictures are to small to translate the text.

Has anyone information about this statue and the text on it ?

Thanks in advance Razz .


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wanted to let you know I tried Smile
I cannot find any mention of this statue in any of my books.
I was rather doubtful anyways, because I think we gravitate towards the same type of books.

Has Djedi considered emailing the Ashmolean and asking them directly?
Another option is to as the EEF. Someone on that list may know.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote Anneke : Just wanted to let you know I tried .I cannot find any mention of this statue in any of my books.


Thank you Anneke, for trying to find information about this statue Wink .

I found a reference to the statue, see link
It's not much Sad . According to this info the person on the statue is Akhenaten.
http://www.canyonlights.com/ashmoleanmuseumo.html

Art of the Amarna Period (888005984X) 6 slides
With notes by Helen Whitehouse.

1.Painted Sandstone Statue of Akhenaton, head missing, house, Amarna.


I also posted the pictures from the book of J. Vandier , La Statuaire Egyptienne
Tome III
Les Grandes Epoques
La Statuaire
Pl. CXIV : 4-5


http://users.skynet.be/super_novatje/Afbeelding%20237.jpg

http://users.skynet.be/super_novatje/Afbeelding%20238.jpg[/url]


I hope someone can help me with the translation of the text on the back pillar.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure, but I think it says something like:

Aten (double cartouches)
given life, prosperity and health
Lord of the two lands
(Neferkheperure)| (1)
Lord of Horizons (2)
(Akhenaten)|
[... epithet...] (3)
Great Royal Wife
(Neferneferuaten Nefertiti)|
Life, prosperity and health


(1) - can't see if there is a waenre
(2) - I have seen different translations for this, but I think it says neb khau
(3) -- I think this is one of the standard epithets with what looks like a sistrum? I have seen something like it in inscriptions.

The top is broken off and I cannot tell if it has the early or the late form of the Aten's name
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(anx Ra-Hr-Axty Haj m Axt)|
(m rn=f m Sw ntj m Jtn)| dj anx Dt r nHH

(Live Re-Harakhte, Jubilant in the Horizon)|
(In his name is Shu, which is the Aten)|, given life for ever and eternity.

nb tAwj (Nfr-xprw-Ra wa-n-Ra)| nb xaw (Ax-n-Jtn)| dj anx aA m aHa=f
Lord of the Two Lands, (Neferkheperura sole one of Ra)|, Lord of Horizons (Akhenaten)|, great in his lifespan

Hmt-wrt-nsw (Nfr-nfrw-Jtn Nfrt-jtj)| anx.tj Dt nHH
Great Wife of the King (Neferneferuaten Nefertiti)|, given life for ever and eternity

( )| = sign for cartouche

'...what looks like a sistrum?' aHa.w is 'lifetime'. (Source: TLA)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for both the transliteration and translation Aset.

You think it's the early version of the Aten name then?

It sounds like this statue was found in the King's House? Is that the main palace? I wonder if it initially held an offering table. It looks like it may have.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anneke and Aset,


I want to thank you both so much for helping me with the translation of the inscriptions on the back pilar of the statue Smile .

I wonder why this statue is never been shown in the many Amarna books who are on the market.
The colors are so welll preserved on it.

Has anyone any idia who and when this statue was excavated at Amarna?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised this statue isn't included in more books as well. It's a wonderful piece.

Looking at museum number 1924.162, my guess is that it was excavated in 1924? But that's only a guess.
I actually tried to find excavation reports from around that time to see if statues like this were mentioned. There were several etams excavting in Amarna in the 1920s. I didn't notice anything about a statue like this.

Is Djedi going to include the information on his website?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anneke,


"Painted sandstone statue of Akhenaten holding an offering table, head missing; from the garden shrine of a private house at El-Amarna c. 1353-1335 B.C. (Ht. 90 cm; 1924.162)."
This information comes from Djedi (PM, Pr Kmt)(catalogue Ashmolean museum).

He also thinks that the statue is discovered by Newton and Griffith (they excavated at Amarna between 1923-1925).

Quote Anneke : Is Djedi going to include the information on his website?

Djedi will include information by every picture on his website, but for the moment he is very busy with putting the pictures on it.
He told me also that information concerning art work is always welcome Razz .
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just found out Razz , that the Ashmolean statue of Akhenaten belongs to a pair of headless statues of "Akhenaten and Nefertiti" ( Silsilah sandstone), found on 4th February 1924 in rubbish 50 cm above floor in the north-east corner of small chamber at west end of L 50,12 very near to the shrine-platform of L 50,9, from which they had probably thrown out.
The statue of Nefertiti, now in the British Museum, has lost head, feet above ankles and base, most of the tablet with the right lower arm and the left hand.
Each was represented standing with feet together, on a plain rectangular plinth, with inscribed pilaster at the back...........
Source :
Excavations at Tell el-'Amarnah, 1923-4.
A. Statuary
F. Ll. Griffith
The Journal of Egyptian Archaeology, Vol. 17, No. 3/4 (Nov., 1931), pp. 179-184
Published by: Egypt Exploration Society
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