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Family depictions as symbols of the solar deity?

 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Family depictions as symbols of the solar deity? Reply with quote

There are several depictions of Akhenaten with his wife and daughters.
This has been seen by some as a sign that Akhenaten was more of a family man than most.

I just started reading "Tutankhamen's Armies: Battle and Conquest during Ancient Egypt's Late 18th Dynasty" ( by Darnell and Manassa) and in their introduction to the Amarna period they mention that these depictions may be symbol of the solar deity.

The word for light ray setut and hand djeret are both feminine words. The sun is depicted with these light rays and hands that are shown holding an ankh.
Similarly Akhenaten is surrounded by female elements. The princesses are the projections of Akhenaten as the sun in this setting.

Smile I hope I paraphrased the idea correctly. I thought it was a rather inetresting idea..
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you mean. Never really thought of it that way.

Akhenaten certainly wanted (and liked) to be praised and worshipped ^.^;;
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Akhenaton, Nefertiti, Tutankhamun : We don't know how they died!


Who was Smenkhkare?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished reading Tutankhamun's Armies.
I was struck by the authors' depiction of Atenism, and particulary of Akhenaton's adoption of it as an attempt to roll theological time back to the beginning, before the other gods had come into existence. In other words, an ultra-conservative movement.
Darnell and Manassa also argue that there was no indifference on Akhenaton's part to events up north in what is now Palestine, Israel, Lebanon, and Syria, despite the apparent mayhem depicted in the Amarna letters. Their thesis is that Egypt looked at Mitanni as a falling power and allowed the situation in northern Syria to evolve into a buffer state between Egypt and the Hittites. This, they argue, would have allowed the Egyptians to reduce their forces there and so would have much more economical.

It's a good book and I recommend it, although at times I felt like I was reading 'filler' material intended to flesh out the book to a few more pages. At any rate, it was good enough to get my attention and stop me from my usual practice of reading half a dozen to a dozen books all at the same time.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently saw this very same book at a Barnes & Noble and nearly bought it. In the end I didn't...and now I'm regretting it. Sounds like an interesting and thought-provoking book. Next time I see it I won't think twice. Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who was Smenkhkare?[/quote]

Smenkhare was the son of (possibly) Akhenaten and Nefertiti, he is thought to have ruled alongside his father for a number of years before their disapearence and Tutankhamun's rise to the throne.

I think that Egyptologists were (or/and still are) debating over whether a mummy found in KV55 is either Smenkhare's or Akhenatens body.

If you want a little more info: http://www.suziemanley.com/famous_egyptians/smenkhkare.htm

(correct me if i am wrong on any of this...) Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks right to me. We know little about Smenkhkare and he is one of the great question marks of the Amarna Period. No one can even be 100% certain, I believe, of his familial relation with Akhenaten.

The body in KV55 is also a big mystery. I've always favored Smenkhkare for the identification but not everyone agrees. Plenty of people still feel it's Akhenaten. And the more the body is scientifically analyzed, the more questions it seems to create! Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Smenkhkare-wood.jpg

Smenkhkare looks like a woman!



Some say:

Smenkhkare = Nefertiti ???

and others say:

Smenkhkare = daughter of Nefertiti ???

Smenkhkare = father of Tutankhamun?

Smenkhkare = son of Akhenaten? (and brother of Tutankhamun)

Smenkhkare = husband of Akhenaten's daughter?

Smenkhkare = son of Amenhotep III ? (and brother of Akhenaten!)

Smenkhkare = co-regent of Akhenaten ?


http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/smenkhkare.htm

= Is this the skull of Smenkhkare?

Family tree of the Eighteenth dynasty:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_the_Eighteenth_dynasty_of_Egypt

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What happened to Nefertiti? Idea

Who died first Nefertiti or Akhenaten? Idea
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and who was Neferneferuaten? Idea


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neferneferuaten
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