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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi all, I have just pulled this piece from the interview with Zahi Hawass that has kind of confused me.

"In October we will continue with these two tombs, KV 64 and KV 65, and we found a tomb thatís coming from up down, and we found in the cliff a man made wall, and the bottom area to be like the entrance of a tomb, and working in the Tomb of Seti. This winter the Valley of the Kings will be so busy that no one really can believe what will happen."

Does this mean his team have possibly found 4 tombs?






I took it that potentially three tombs have been discovered - KV64, KV65, and a separate cliff-tomb. He also mentions that they are continuing to work in the tunnel leading from Seti I's burial chamber, sifting through the debris.

I'd heard or read rumours of a cliff-tomb being discovered some time ago, but assumed they were just that (i.e rumours).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of these things may be no more than funerary deposits or embalmers caches, so I'll withhold celebration till we know more. Still, it's exciting.

I have no idea what Hawass is saying with "a tomb thatís coming from up down." Confused Sounds to me like something with an elevator. Did Egyptian tombs have elevators?

"Third level, folks: furniture and clothing. Fourth level: shabtis and jewelry. Fifth level: mummies and canopics, so it'll be a bit smelly down here." Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Absolutely correct. I used the term "Tomb" but you're quite right. they could be store rooms, embalming caches/empty.

Let's see what is uncovered come October. Still very exciting though! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

he's a little inconsisitent in his theories. kiya in kv 63, nefertiti in the valley, amenhotep I at deir el bahri. and saying no royals from the 18th were buried in the valley of the queens.

he said the vq was only used from the 19th dynasty. hello, there are burials from the late 17th in there!! and prioncess/wives of amenhotep III.

and im not sure nefertiti survived, unless she is in amenhotep II's tomb.
and i thought amenhotep was kv 38, or in dra abu el nga?

plus not revealing the dna of the mummies? it's not like anyone has a aclaim to the throne!!!!

and the age of the kv 55 mummy? i thought it was 20-25 yo, sounds like smenkhare to me. wasn't he calling it a woman a few months ago?
and apart from magic bricks, ther's no evidence to say it is akhenaten.

just saying, nothing he says adds up. like 'cleopatra's tomb', how he found that, and when wrong, gave up and found a bigger plan, ramses VIII!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kylejustin wrote:
he's a little inconsisitent in his theories.



Welcome to the world of Zawi Hawass! Laughing

Wayward theories aside, it looks like he and his team may have stumbled across "Something" during their investigations. We can only speculate on the significance at this time, and hopefully details will be forthcoming when the investigations resume.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The EEf mailing list just had a message about this topic. I know some of you are on the list, but for those of you who are not, it seems that between the tombs of Merenptah and Ramesses II there are two sites that show evidence of human activity.

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unmistakeable evidence of the action of man with quite significant
amounts of rock carved away. From the pictures both look like
excellent candidates for tombs - although until more work has
been undertaken they could just be pits.

(quote from EEF - J. Wall)

It is apparently not clear just yet if these are full fledged tombs or not. People had already commented on the fact that these could just be pits in this thread, but it sounds like Hawass mentioned in a lecture that we will only know just what it is they found after more work will be done in October.

I'm with the other posters here Very Happy Really curious what will come to light in the coming season.

October .... Not too too far off.

I found this little tidbit interesting as well:
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Work is, iirc, scheduled to start again in October and he's moving his office from Cairo to Luxor at that time.

(italic bold emphasis mine)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey peeps,

I saw Zahi Hawass yesterday and he confrimed much about the findings of 2 tombs in the Valley of the Kings. As mentioned already the tombs are around R2 and Merenptah.

I agree, October looks like it shall be fun! Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy I just noticed a much more detailed post about Hawass' lecture by Carl Graves: http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3701

As a teacher I'm tempted to make this "recommended reading". Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anneke wrote:
Very Happy I just noticed a much more detailed post about Hawass' lecture by Carl Graves: http://forum.egyptiandreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3701

As a teacher I'm tempted to make this "recommended reading". Wink


Sorry anneke, think i got in too fast for you there haha!

Although thanks for the 'recommended reading' comment Smile

I feel like a good student now haha! xxx
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is getting exciting. I look forward to the start of excavations.

I recommend that everyone follow anneke's link to Carl Graves's summary of the Hawass lecture. It's very enjoyable. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

I was also at the lectrure by Zahi Hawass and Carl has summed it up brilliantly. Just to add a couple of notes to it. Firstly the tunnel in Seti's tomb. He seems to be convinced that when work resumes on the tunnel that they will find a chamber at the end because of finds they have made so far. As Carl mentioned he confirmed the finding of two new tombs. The "up,down" tomb Hawass mentioned in an article on his website, looks very similar to KV63 with a deep shaft and an opening at the bottom of the shaft. He believes this is the tomb of Amennakht, the father of an 18th Dynasty vizier. He also said that KV64 belongs to a previously unknown princess. This has got me hoping that because this princess is unknown perhaps her burial may be intact due to her funerary pieces never being found or popping up on the black market! Anyway it was a very interesting lecture and I cant wait for October Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid question time (so apologies in advance).

The tomb/cutting/whatever tentatively designated as KV64...presumably this can't be the same anomaly identified by Nicholas Reeves and his team, which was unofficially labelled "KV64"? Or is it? Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osiris II wrote:
It is...


Really? I got the impression that the KV 64 and 65 mentioned by Hawass were located near Merneptah's tomb, while Reeves' KV 64 was closer to Tut's tomb Question

I'm confused ....
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you quote a source on that, Osiris II?

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