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Osiris II
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are several sites that show the cartouche of Nefertiti. Those that Montuhotep88 posted are among the best.
As far as I know, though, there is no cartouche on the bust.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osiris II wrote:
There are several sites that show the cartouche of Nefertiti. Those that Montuhotep88 posted are among the best.
As far as I know, though, there is no cartouche on the bust.

Here is one on a original piece from the reconstructed sarcophagus of Echnaton :


( Cairo, Egyptian Museum, Garden - 11-04-2008 )

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osiris II wrote:
As far as I know, though, there is no cartouche on the bust.
This is what I thought, therefore could the bust be Neferneferuaten or Ankhesenpaaten Idea It looks like a finished product, why was it still in the sculptor workshop Question
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gerard. wrote:
Osiris II wrote:
As far as I know, though, there is no cartouche on the bust.
This is what I thought, therefore could the bust be Neferneferuaten or Ankhesenpaaten Idea It looks like a finished product, why was it still in the sculptor workshop Question

There is no name on the bust, thats right. But the typical blue crown identifies here unquestionably.

Next to the bust of Nefertiti there was one in the same scale from Echnaton, but totally destroyed. Some scientist believe they were models for the workers at the workshop of Thutmosis.

Also the missing eye points to this direction. Borchard searched for it but did not find. Investigations of the bust some years ago have shown that it never were inserted (no remains of an adhesive).

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lutz wrote:
Some scientist believe they were models for the workers at the workshop of Thutmosis.

Also the missing eye points to this direction. Borchard searched for it but did not find. Investigations of the bust some years ago have shown that it never were inserted (no remains of an adhesive).


When I first heard this idea, I was scandalized. "Surely," I thought, "such an obvious masterpiece must be something more than just a model or some sort of teaching aid!" But the more I've read about it, the more logical this is. They couldn't have had the royals sit for portrait after portrait and statue after statue... with all the times Akhenaten and Nefertiti appeared in art, they would have had time for little else! Ergo, there must have been some 'officially-approved' image (or images) that would serve as the Vorlage for all of the rest. The Berlin Nefertiti bust fits nicely into that scenario.
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