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Book about Maia(Zivie) - connection to Meritaten
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meretseger wrote:
I believe Tiye is referred to in a letter to Akhenaten as 'your mother' and several letters concern foreign wives of Amenhotep III specifically a sister of the king of Babylon and Tadukhipa. ...

Very helpfully with questions to the content of the Amarna letters : The Encyclopedia of El Amarna letters by California Institute for Ancient Studies.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Third Intermediate Period Chantress Coffin Discovered in Sakkara (Luxor Times, 17.05.2014) :
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"While cleaning and clearing the debris from a tomb of a Lady called "Maya/Maia" who was Tutankhamun's wet nurse in Bastet cemetery in Sakkara, the French mission working on the site directed by Dr. Alain Zivie in cooperation with Ministry of Antiquities, a coffin of a holy chorus chantress was found. The coffin dated to the Third Intermediate Period (TIP - Dynasty 22-24). It belongs to a chantress called "Ta Akhet" ..."

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 11:23 am    Post subject: Maia -Meritaten Reply with quote

There is a possibility Zivie's theory could be right. We are all too used to once Royal always Royal. In Egypt Royal status was depending on your personal relation with the reigning Pharaoh.

Meritaten was born as the daughter of the Pharaoh (Amenhotep IV) and so was a princess. She became a Great Royal Wife of at least Smenchkare and possibly also her father Achnaten. But after both of them died and Tutanchamen succeeded her personal relationship to the reigning monarch was different. She could have been the King's sister if Tut had also been a son of Achnaten, yet during his reign any relationship to that predecessor seems to have been left out. More likely Meritaten was Tut's stepmother (as the wife of Smenchkare). So in that light it would not have been odd for her to have supervised his education and even acted as regent.
When Tutanchamun succeeded Meritaten had no Royal title she could use. King's cousin or stepmother were not normal titles so she may ended up with tutor.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Maia -Meritaten Reply with quote

Thieuke wrote:
There is a possibility Zivie's theory could be right. We are all too used to once Royal always Royal. In Egypt Royal status was depending on your personal relation with the reigning Pharaoh.

Meritaten was born as the daughter of the Pharaoh (Amenhotep IV) and so was a princess. She became a Great Royal Wife of at least Smenchkare and possibly also her father Achnaten. But after both of them died and Tutanchamen succeeded her personal relationship to the reigning monarch was different. She could have been the King's sister if Tut had also been a son of Achnaten, yet during his reign any relationship to that predecessor seems to have been left out. More likely Meritaten was Tut's stepmother (as the wife of Smenchkare). So in that light it would not have been odd for her to have supervised his education and even acted as regent.
When Tutanchamun succeeded Meritaten had no Royal title she could use. King's cousin or stepmother were not normal titles so she may ended up with tutor.


Well, there was always "king's sister". Why would that have been taken away from Meritaten--even if she were no longer a queen? Or, if nothing else, "iri pat aAt" meaning "noble lady"? But the main thing about Maia is that Maia is that she "nourished the flesh of the god" [Tutankhamun]. This is what the text in the tomb says. That means she was not just a "mnat" in the sense of a governess but an actual wet-nurse. I don't think the Egyptian royals nursed their own children or there wouldn't be so many "nurses" and, besides, Meritaten wasn't the mother of Tutankhamun. So why would he have fed at her breast, even if she had a child of her own?
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lutz wrote:
Here is a picture of an relief from the tomb of Maia from Alan Zivie`s " The Lost Tombs of Saqqara " (Edition cara.cara, 2007), page 79 :



I think the inscription gives name and title. Maybe someone could translate ?


It says "mnat nsw, Sdit nb tAwy, MtiA" or "royal governess, wet-nurse of the Lord of the Two Lands, Mtia" --that's behind the head of the lady and her name is also spelled that way in the long band of text on the far left. Otherwise it's just funerary formula stuff.
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