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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The garlic bread remark was made at one site because I think they sometimes flavoured bread with garlic.

But here's something really odd I discovered in some book about Egyptian gods/religion...it said that the ancient Egyptians drank hot chocolate at rituals! Erm, excuse me, but wasn't it the Aztecs who did that? They didn't have chocolate in Egypt (shame...) so I have no idea where the author got this idea from...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

èh? Confused
What kind of books do u read? Smile
Cécémel was indeed not yet "invented".
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read somewhere that garlic bread comes from the medieval Italian "bruescetta" but I'm not sure.
And yeah, I actually looked this up. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sometimes read books that may provoke 'arf' reactions... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cocoa bean does not grow naturally in Africa, Europe or Asia.
So unless the Egyptians crossed the atlantic, I don't see how they would have obtained the cocoa to make their chocolat milk Cool

Anyone know what carob is made of? Just wondering if they could have had a substitute.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crossing the atlantic theories...don't even go there! LOL

Unless they had something that tasted like chocolate, but wasn't cocoa.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know what carob is? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a cocoa substitute dear:

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CAROB--THE COCOA SUBSTITUTE

Carob (Ceratonia siliqua)

FABACEAE, Legume Family

Many residents of southern California have seen carob trees (Ceratonia siliqua) planted around town. Carob is an evergreen tree with pinnately compound leaves (have 2 to 6 pairs of oval leaflets), which can grow to a height of 15 meters and be very handsome. Nevertheless, this species is grown around the world primarily as a food crop, for its sweet and nutritious fruits.

Carob is native to the eastern Mediterranean, probably the Middle East, where it has been in cultivation for at least 4000 years. The plant was well known to the ancient Greeks, who planted seeds of this plant in Greece and Italy. There are references to carob in the Bible. For example, this plant is also called St. John's bread or locust bean because the pods were once thought to have been the "locusts" that were eaten by John the Baptist in the Wilderness. That story was apparently wrong--he ate migratory locust. Seeds were used to weight gold, hence the word "carat." Mohammed's army ate kharoub, and Arabs planted the crop in northern Africa and Spain (Moors), along with citrus (Citrus) and olives (Olea). Spaniards carried carob to Mexico and South America, and the British took carob to South Africa, India, and Australia. Records show that carob was intentionally introduced into the United States in 1854, and the first seedlings were apparently planted in California in 1873. For commercial production cultivars with the finest quality fruits are bud grafted on common stock. Carob grows well anywhere that citrus is grown, and it prefers dry climates that receive more than 30 centimeters of rainfall--ideal mediterranean-type climates.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know. Is it a choccy substitute?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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we know carob mostly because the pods are ground into a flour that is a cocoa substitute
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they only knew honey.
Could it be? Carob-plantations in the Delta?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted too fast there Anneke. That's un-editable posts for ya.

Maybe that's the 'chocolate' they refer to in that book.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isisinacrisis wrote:
I sometimes read books that may provoke 'arf' reactions... Laughing
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Okido. Smile Now how did u know I was doubting between "èh?" and "arf?"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be neat if they ever found a depiction of a carob tree in a tomb? Very Happy

I think it requires more sweetening, so maybe combined with honey it would be quite good?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh-that's what my mum says when she's surprised. She's French.
Arf...well you use that for other comments I made about weird books lol
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