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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: new chamber in pyramid of Cheops? Reply with quote

I found this article which claims that a new room may exist in the great pyramid.


Frenchmen claim discovery of Great Pyramid burial chamber

Sun Aug 29, 4:28 PM ET

PARIS (AFP) - Two French amateur archaelogists this week published a book in which they claim to have located the secret burial chamber of the Pyramid of Cheops near Cairo, the largest pyramid ever built.


According to the study of the Great Pyramid, a fourth, undiscovered room lies underneath its so-called Queen's chamber, and is likely to have been the burial chamber for Cheops, an Egyptian pharaoh who ruled from 2560 to 2532 BC.

Cheops' final resting place has never been found despite decades of investigation at the site, but the French researchers are being denied access to the pyramid to put their theory to the test.

Gilles Dormion, an architect by training, and Jean-Yves Verd'hurt, set out to probe the mysteries of the Great Pyramid with a first trip in 1986, returning to the site in 1998.

Using a technique called microgravimetry, which measures the density of materials, they discovered what appeared to be a cavity underneath the Queen's chamber, where they also found evidence that the stone tiling had been been moved at some point.

Japanese scientists later confirmed the existence of a cavity a few metres (yards) wide, using radar technology.

The French team suggests this is a corridor leading to a further chamber, hidden deep in the belly of the pyramid, which could be the elusive sepulchral room -- but have been unable to put their theory to the test.

"It is still a hypothesis, but everything adds up and points to the same conclusion. We need the authorisation to carry out a search," Dormion was quoted as saying by the French newspaper Liberation.

Egyptian authorities are currently denying them access to the pyramid on the grounds that neither is a specialist -- although their project has the backing of a top French academic.

Many pharaohs built their own pyramid for their mummified body to be preserved away from human view and sacrilege.

According to the French pair, none of the pyramid's three existing rooms would have been strong enough to qualify as a royal burial chamber -- which needs to withstand the test of centuries.

In the so-called King's room, at the top of a steep shaft reaching up inside the pyramid, they point to deep cracks in the massive granite blocks that form the chamber's ceiling as evidence of this.

The Queen's chamber, meanwhile, cannot be sealed off, meaning it could not have been used as a burial chamber, while work on the third known room was abandoned before it was completed.

The Pyramid of Cheops, greatest of the three pyramids at Gizeh, stands 147 metres (485 feet) tall and 230.34 metres (750 feet) across. It is 2.34 million cubic metres (81 cubic feet) in size, and weighs more than 4.7 million tonnes.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh-could this be the legendary lost chamber that everyone's talking about??? Very Happy I've also heard they were putting the robots back in the shafts to drill through the other doors in the shafts...what are they chances they'll find yet another door behind them? Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's an interesting article in the Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1293377,00.html

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But Gilles Dormion, an architect, and Jean-Yves Verd'hurt, a retired property agent, have so far been refused permission by the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities to follow up their findings and, they hope, prove the room's existence.

"To do so, one would simply have to pass a fibre optic cable down through existing holes in the stone, to see if there are portcullis blocks in the corridor below," said Mr Verd'hurt. "Then it will be necessary to enter the front part of the corridor and penetrate the room, taking all precautions to ensure that it is not contaminated."

The portcullis blocks were large granite slabs that the ancient Egyptians lowered into the corridor leading to the king's funeral chamber, via a system of cords descending from above, to seal it after his burial.


They are careful to point out that nothing has been discovered yet. But that ground penetrating radar indicates there's an unexplored area.

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However, they have been working in the pyramids for 20 years, and their radar analyses in another pyramid, at Meidum, led in 2000 to the discovery of two previously undetected rooms.


Anyone heard about the discoveries in Meidum?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this rather interesting. I had wondered if it would be possible to use these "new" technologies to point the way for archeologists.

I know that in the past using radar in the King's Valley has been problematic.
I think that if the ground has a complicated structure (geologically) then you may expect to hit some false positives.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting articles, but I do not understand why they have denied access to the pyramid? Only because they are no Archeologists or Egyptologists? Just wondering Question
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why they have been denied access either.
The use of radar is an accepted practice by now in egyptology I think.
Unless it's a case that other people have seniority, and their investigations will go first?? I'm thinking about the small robots going through the air shafts.

I don't know what the procedure is either. How long before people are approved for any investigations/excavations? They clearly can't let just anyone do what they want, but I have no idea what the timing on something like that would be.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Very interesting articles, but I do not understand why they have denied access to the pyramid?


Well, there are loads of conspiracy theories about this... Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now you're being silly. Black is way to warm in the desert. They must change into light linnen suits... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they can't drive a black colored SUV (because of the sand getting in the motor), do you think they would get on a dark colored camel? Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

men in beige?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psusennes III wrote:
men in black?

Yeah yeah, go ahead... Rolling Eyes
Blame goths for a change... Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to pyramids:

earlier, I wrote:
However, they have been working in the pyramids for 20 years, and their radar analyses in another pyramid, at Meidum, led in 2000 to the discovery of two previously undetected rooms.


Anyone know anything about there rooms in the pyramids of Meidum?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All is not as it seems in the Antiquities Department of the Cairo Museum, the ones responsible for such decisions.

Or should I say, the one individual responsible. You would have seen him - he is in almost every documentary "permitted" to be filmed in Egypt, comments on and is present at pretty well all the findings and excavations (when they yield). Some might say this is his job, but I think you ought to read a book called "The stargate conspiracy". I think it is closer to the truth on the whole subject.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That person you refer to...are his initials Z.H. by any chance? Wink

And I have read that book! Although i don't agree with certain things in it, it was a very interesting read.
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