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EgyptianRose · Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:09 am Post subject: Who is Tadu-Heba?

I was reading the through a site full of Amarna Letters and came across this letter from the King of Tushratta

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/a-tushratta_3.htm

Apparently Tadu-Heba married Akhenaten after Amenhotep's III death, which came to a surprise to me, considering I thought Akhenaten only married Neferteti and Kiya during his rule?

So who is Tadu-Heba?
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EgyptianRose · Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:17 am Post subject:

My apologies not from King of Tushratta, From Tushratta King of Mitanni*
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kylejustin · Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:14 am Post subject:

i think you'll find her name is tadu khepa in the literature, sometimes thought she may have been kiya.
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EgyptianRose · Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:53 am Post subject:

Again my apologies, the site as you may have seen wrote her name as Tadu Heba. I also was wondering if there was any possibility that she might have been Kiya, considering Kiya is well known to have been a foreign princess whom married Akhenaten. Though is there any evidence supporting that Tadu Khepa may have been Kiya?
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It is of course the hieght of irony that, after this intensive campaign to expunge them from the annals of Egypt, the Amarna pharaohs are today probably the most recognized of all the country's ancient rulers!

Quote 'Amarna Sunset' by Aidan Dodson.

Meretseger · Priest Joined: 02 Jan 2010 Posts: 588

Nothing at all is known about Kiya's family or background which makes it tempting to equate her with Tadukhipa. It is certainly possible but frankly there is no evidence supporting such an identification and certainly no good reason to believe Kiya was anything but an Egyptian.

EgyptianRose · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:06 am Post subject:

Many people seem to assume she was a foriegn princess for the mere fact that her name is rather unique, though I see that isn't automatically the case. Is there any rough dates as to when Kiya may have married Akhenaten? Any evidence suggesting a date at all?
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It is of course the hieght of irony that, after this intensive campaign to expunge them from the annals of Egypt, the Amarna pharaohs are today probably the most recognized of all the country's ancient rulers!

Quote 'Amarna Sunset' by Aidan Dodson.

kylejustin · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:33 am Post subject:

aldred thought it was a pet name similar to 'monkey'. it does appear to be a nick name though. possibly from a foreign name.
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Robson · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject:

If Kiya really was Taduheba, she should have her own opet, maybe constitued with the hundreds of people who came from Mitanni with her plus the remaining ones who came with her aunt decades before. I no wonder it would be located in Ghurob. Akhenaten could just transefered her and her retinue to Akhetaten with possible practical interest (due its manpower in particular).

Frater0082 · Account Suspended Joined: 03 Jul 2012 Posts: 175

It makes sense that Kiya was Tadukhepa. Tushratta was a very important ally to Akhenaten and Amenhotep III she would have been highly important in Akhetaten. She could have been placed as a secondary wife like her aunt Gildukhepa.

I wonder what happened to Gildukhepa?
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neseret · Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:53 pm Post subject:

Lutz · Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:10 pm Post subject:

The name "Kiya" is assigned as an Egyptian womans name. See for example a stela in the Vienna KHM :

Stele des Imen-hetep. NK, 19th Dynasty, time of Sethy I., 1314-1304 B.C. Maybe from Saqqara. Limestone, painted. H 120 cm, W 70,2 cm, D 13 cm.
Kunsthistorisches Museum Wien, Ägyptisch - Orientalische Sammlung, Inv.-Nr. : AE INV 178.

Kiya is not known from the Talatat at Karnak, but there is a calcite cosmetic pot in the MMA New York: Unguent Vase of Queen Kiya (MMA AN 20.2.11). This vessel was purchased in Egypt from Howard Carter in 1920 by the MMA. He was excavating in Thebes at that time and had also contact to various dealers in the area...

Greetings, Lutz.
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kylejustin · Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:27 am Post subject:

so it's probably a dimunitive of a longer (perhaps not) name. like jane/joan, fanny/frances, liz/lizzie/eliza/elizabeth etc.
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Frater0082 · Account Suspended Joined: 03 Jul 2012 Posts: 175

That's stela of Amenhotep right.

Lutz · Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:38 pm Post subject: