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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Amduat guardians Reply with quote

Hi there everyone,

I am looking to find the names of the serpent guardians of the gates/ divisions or hours of the Amduat or underworld. I did find online the translations of the names, but not in ancient Egyptian. Managed to find a few through Wallis Budges' books but not all. Any ideas as to where else I can look for them?

What I found is this:
Division Guardian Serpent Name of Gate
1 Guardian of the Desert He of the Hidden Name (Osiris)
2 Enveloper Intense of Flame
3 Stinger Lady of Nourishment
4 Flame-Face One of Action
5 Eye of Flame Lady of Continuity
6 Darting of Eye Throne of her Lord
7 Hidden of Eye Gleaming One
8 Flame-Face Red-hot
9 Earth-tusk Exalted of Veneration
10 Binder Sacred
11 Effluent One Hidden of Access
12 He of the Dawn Sacred of Power

Looking forward to any replies

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a list of the goddesses and gods of Ancient Egypt (including all the gods and demons mentioned in the Amduat) in

Rainer Hannig : Großes Handwörterbuch Ägyptisch-Deutsch - Die Sprache der Pharaonen (2800 - 950 v. Chr.). - [Hannig-Lexica 1 - Kulturgeschichte der antiken Welt - 64]. - Mainz : von Zabern, 2006. - Marburger Ed., 4., re-worked Ed. - ISBN : 3-8053-1771-9. - XLIV, 1475, 20 p.

on pages 1215 - 1280. They are listed there in hieroglyphs, transcription and in German translation.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Lutz, really appreciate your reply. Wasn't able to find the book online, but will keep looking.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know it is not online. But a greater / good library should have it. Sometimes you can buy used examples for an acceptable price and it is not really a problem if it is an older edition...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:37 pm    Post subject: Guardian serpent of the first hour Reply with quote

Hi Lutz,

Are you aware of the Egyptian name of the serpent guardian of the gate/portal of the first hour of the Amduat?

I found the second (SAA-EST), third (Aqebi) etc. but no information at all for the first one. Since the first hour was suppose to be a transitional space between the world of the living and the dead - is there a possibility that there isn't a guardian serpent for the first hour?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have ordered last night

Erik Hornung : Das Amduat - Die Schrift des verborgenen Raumes. - [hrsg. nach Texten aus den Gräbern des Neuen Reiches]. - T. 1 / 2 : Text / Übersetzung und Kommentar. - Wiesbaden : Harrassowitz, 1963

in the State Library Berlin and have it here now. But I am still at work and had just a short look insight. It seems there is really no real guardian of the gate / portal. I just found a "Hüter des Gebietes" (Guardian of the area). With the area the so called "Wernes" is meant. His name is "Der zu den beiden Flammen gehört" (He who belongs to the two flames).

But will have a look in calm at home and post if I found something / someone ... Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Amduat guardians Reply with quote

mvpapaioannou wrote:
... I am looking to find the names of the serpent guardians of the gates/ divisions or hours of the Amduat or underworld. ...

I think I found the solution. There are no guardians of the gates in the Amduat. Here the gates have a name and there is for every hour a goddess with name. The serpent guardians of the gates are known from the "Book of Gates".

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Divisions (Hours) of the Amduat:

I - Net-ra
II - Urnes
III - Net-neb-ua-kheper-aut
IV - Ankhet-kheperu
V - Ament
VI - Metjet-mu-nebt-duat
VII - Thephet-asar
VIII - Tebat-netjeru-s
IX - Best-aru-ankhet-kheperu
X - Metet-qa-utjebu
XI - Re-en-qerert-apt-khatu
XII - Then-netjeru
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guardians of the Gates:

Saa-Set: The Second Division of the Duat.
Aqebi. The Third Division of the Duat.
Tjetbi. The Fourth Division of the Tuat
Teka-Hra. The Fifth Division of the Duat
The Judgment Hall of Osiris. The Sixth Division of the Duat.
Set-em-maat-f. The Sixth Division Of The Duat.
Akha-En-Maat. The Seventh Division of the Duat.
Set-hra. The Eighth Division of the Duat.
Ab-ta. The Ninth Division of the Duat.
Sethu. The Tenth Division of the Duat.
Am-netu-f. The Eleventh Division of the Duat.
Sebi and Reri. The Twelft Division of the Duat
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The First Gate or Ante-Chamber has no guardian. It is an obligatory passage for everyone who die.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be helpful if you give your sources ...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robson wrote:
The First Gate or Ante-Chamber has no guardian. It is an obligatory passage for everyone who die.

There are definitely no named guardians on the gates in the "Amduat" ("The scripture of the hidden room"). An inhabited and guarded gate at the end of each hour we know from the "Book of Gates" ("Pfortenbuch", earliest known versions in the Valley of the Kings, in the tombs of Ramses I and Horemheb). In "The scripture of the hidden room (Amduat)", there are just names for every single gate.

See "Lexikon der Ägyptologie - IV". - Wiesbaden : Harrassowitz, 1982. - Van Voss : Pfortenbuch. - Col. 1015-16.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lutz wrote:
It would be helpful if you give your sources ...

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Budge, E. A. Wallis. The Egyptian heaven and hell - 1996 - Dover Publications
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robson wrote:
Lutz wrote:
It would be helpful if you give your sources ...

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Budge, E. A. Wallis. The Egyptian heaven and hell - 1996 - Dover Publications

Strange. In my version (1905, 2 volumes) Budge also gives just for "The Book of Gates" but not for, as he calls it, the "Am-Tuat" guardians of the gates.

Budge : The Egyptian Heaven and Hell - Vol.1 (1905)

Budge : The Egyptian Heaven and Hell - Vol.2 (1905)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I didn't name them as "guardians", but as the hour names themselves in Amduat.
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