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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Nubia Birthed Egypt Reply with quote

A recent publication from Maria Gatto (Yale) details the origins of both Nile Valley civilizations:

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To sum up, Nubia is Egypt’s African ancestor. What linked Ancient Egypt to the rest of the North African cultures is this strong tie with the Nubian pastoral nomadic lifestyle, the same pastoral background commonly shared by most of the ancient Saharan and modern sub-Saharan societies. Thus, not only did Nubia have a prominent role in the origin of Ancient Egypt, it was also a key area for the origin of the entire African pastoral tradition.


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Egypt and Egyptians were an indigenous product of Africa, and Nubia was the African ancestor of that civilization . The National Geographic also dedicated a page to Egypt's origins on their webpage which was written by S.O.Y. Keita a couple of years earlier which correlates with Gatto:

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The Neolithic cultures in northern Egypt show evidence over time of varying contacts, with Saharan influences the most dominant. In the case of food procurement, ancestral Egyptians living on Lake Fayum added to their tradition of foraging by raising Near Eastern domesticated plants (wheat and barley) and animals (sheep and goats). Domesticated cattle came from the Sahara but may also have come from the Near East. Considering that wheat and barley agriculture was practiced in Asia (the Near East) 2,000 years before it was in Egypt, it is important to note that the early Egyptian way of life did not change abruptly at this time (around 5000 B.C.), which is what one would expect if Egypt had simply been peopled by farmers migrating from the Near East. These early Egyptians incorporated the new food stuffs and techniques—and likely some people—into their culture and society on their own terms. The major features of cultural and political development that led to dynastic Egypt originated in southern Egypt during what is called the predynastic period. Some evidence suggests that predynastic Egyptian and early Nubian cultures had ties to the early Saharan cultures and shared a Saharo-Nilotic heritage. Perhaps the earliest predynastic culture, the Badarian-Tasian* (4400 B.C. or earlier, to 4000 B.C.), had the clearest ties to Saharan cultures in the desert west of Nubia.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not really understand what you want to say / express with that. It is also not knew that the people who lived at the time of the foundation of the Ancient Egyptian state came from all areas and all directions, west, east and south of the Nile. When all around the climate changed dramatically and also the Sahara desert arose, they looked for a new place to live. And they brought their cultures with, which like in a melting pot mixed on the Nile and gave birth to a whole new.

I think that's the view for years now in science on the emergence of the Egyptian state and its culture. Earlier ideas that are assumed an import from east or south have long been shelved.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lutz wrote:
I do not really understand what you want to say / express with that. It is also not knew that the people who lived at the time of the foundation of the Ancient Egyptian state came from all areas and all directions, west, east and south of the Nile.


Firstly why the hostility? I was reading a thread on another history forum with this information and thought that this seemed like a good site to spread this knowledge.

Secondly where does the source state anything about the East (outside of Africa) having a prominent role in the formation of the ancient Egyptian state? There were foodstuffs from the Middle East that were incorporated into the Saharan foraging strategy of pre-dynastic northern Egypt, but the primary influences were from inner Africa.

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And they brought their cultures with, which like in a melting pot mixed on the Nile and gave birth to a whole new.


Yes a melting pot of various African communities and their own unique cultures.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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