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Lost Pharaoh

I get stuck with this hieroglyph from Faulkner's dictionary. I couldn't check primary source from which this hieroglyph came from, so I checked WB and Projet Rosette website, and get some different results, which by me, are not same as that hieroglyph from Faulkner's dictionary. Here is side by side comparison of different sources.

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Lost Pharaoh · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:22 pm Post subject:

Here is my reconstruction of that hieroglyph.

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Aset · Priest Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Austria

Certainly

A 90c

, a variant of A90

(see Hannig, WB and TLA, document DZA 22.380.290)

A58

(with the hoe) makes no sense!

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Lost Pharaoh · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:32 am Post subject:

Hm... Could be, probably. Do you have access to original document, primary source called Pierre Lacau, Textes religieux egyptiens, 23, 69.70? Just to be sure.
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Aset · Priest Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Austria

http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/rectrav1907

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Aset · Priest Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Austria

TLA, document

DZA 22.380.330

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Lost Pharaoh · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:47 am Post subject:

Thank you. As I can see on TLA document, it came with risen arms, not down as from WB. On which page is the picture you send me in this french document? Smile

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Lost Pharaoh · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:56 am Post subject:

I found it. Smile

I will analyze it now.
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Aset · Priest Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Austria

Page 154, see PN Exclamation

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Aset · Priest Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Austria

see PM

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Lost Pharaoh · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:11 am Post subject:

I checked, zoomed picture of that hieroglyph with special program, cleared it, and did reconstruction, and this is what I got:

As we can see, the hieroglyph is with risen arms, not lowered down as in WB.

That give as a information that WB got it wrong somehow, or WB came in possession of original inscription from the wall and see it right.
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Aset · Priest Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Austria

Another document (E. Naville, BoD, 110)

DZA 22.380.340

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Lost Pharaoh · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:10 am Post subject:

Hm... If we only know is that a same primary inscription? Idea

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Lost Pharaoh · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:59 am Post subject:

I saw that but I see different hieroglyphs for same inscription, but I am wonder is that primary inscription (on the wall) is the same, or there are two different inscriptions, so there are two different transcriptions in the books.
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