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Major Discovery in the Great Pyramid

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Major Discovery in the Great Pyramid Reply with quote

Results of the "Scan the Pyramids" project have been published today. They show a large void above the Grand Gallery. This void is about the size as the Grand Gallery in cross section and has a minimum length of 30m. There is no information about the orientation of this void in relation to the Grand Gallery or how far above it is. This publication is rather skimpy and I'm sure will be fleshed out later with some graphics so we can better see hos this looks in relation to the known structures in the Great Pyramid.
https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaap/ncurrent/full/nature24647.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw an article on this...very interesting indeed. I saw a cross section graphic that showed the void was near one of the King's Chamber shafts, but I don't suppose the void would be accessible in that way.

I know they sent those little robots up the Queen's Chamber shafts...did they ever do this with the King's Chamber shafts?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they did the King's chamber shafts as well, and nothing found except that both bend a some point along their course.

On this void there are dissenting voices already, chief among them being Zahi Hawass who said that it is not a void but a change in construction materials. The Scan Pyramids team refuted this in a teleconference with Hawass before publication. Mark Lehner has proposed that this void serves the same function for the Grand Gallery as the relieving chambers do for the King's Chamber. I would note that nobody has ever previously stated that the Grand Gallery would need a relieving chamber. It's so strongly corbelled that I cannot see that it needs some form of protection above it. This void does not fit in with Houdin's internal ramp theory either as it is not around the inner surface of the pyramid. Though of course it may well be a construction ramp, just one not imagined before. I'm sure we will be well entertained by all manner of theories for some time to come....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm sure we will be well entertained by all manner of theories for some time to come....


Yes, and that's the disappointing part. No way to really know, and no evidence that the void is something worthy of a destructive exploration method. It could very well be nothing important at all.

(...on the other hand maybe this is Khufu's hidden treasure room! Laughing Laughing )
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On this void there are dissenting voices already, chief among them being Zahi Hawass who said that it is not a void but a change in construction materials. The Scan Pyramids team refuted this in a teleconference with Hawass before publication.


I have heard suggestions previously that sand was used in some areas of the pyramid to "fill in" gaps around blocks. However in this case, that would seem to be a lot of sand.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of sand that over time would gradually work it's way downwards and into other voids, and so possibly cause an internal collapse of the pyramid above a void this big if it were filled with sand.

I wait to see if this void is sloped, as Lehner suggests, or horizontal. I think a sloped void could be a form of structure outside of a "treasure chamber", while a horizontal void will be somewhat more interesting....
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

" Secret Chamber ? Cosmic Rays Reveal Possible Void Inside Great Pyramid " (Live Science - Stephanie Pappas, 02.11.2017)

" In Photos : Looking Inside the Great Pyramid of Giza " (Live Science - Owen Jarus, 02.11.2017)

The original scientific publication...

Kunihiro Morishima, et al : Discovery of a big void in Khufu’s Pyramid by observation of cosmic-ray muons. - In: Nature - advance of print. - 2017. - 18 pp.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Response of the Ministry of Antiquities to press reports as...

" Secrets of hidden chambers inside Great Pyramid of Giza will finally be revealed after 4,500 years thanks to a robot " (The Sun, 14.12.2014)

" Great Pyramid of Giza: Scientists set to uncover 4,500-year-old mystery using ROBOTS " (Sunday Express, 14.12.2017)

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Ministry of Antiquities, Press Office, 17.12.2017 :

Dr. Mostafa Waziri, Secretary-General of the Supreme Council of Antiquities denies all reports published in some international newspapers and online news agencies that French researchers are fabricating an exploration robot that is set to reveal the secrets of mystery chambers inside the Great Pyramid of Giza.

He asserted that the ministry of Antiquities and the Permanent Committee of the Ancient Egyptian Antiquities didn’t give any approval for the production or usage of an exploration robot inside the Great Pyramid for the French researchers or any local or global entities.Even, he continues, there is not any agency or organization or association or Institute or anybody have asked for such request.

Dr. Waziri explains that the using of this technology is based on many researches and scientific studies and approval of the ministry and not based on a personal opinion in order to guarantee the protection and preservation of the monuments.

He also asked the media to be more cautious before publishing the news and the Ministry of Antiquities is always opening its doors to media to provide them with any required information.

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