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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:27 pm    Post subject: Scotland's Ancient Egyptian Collections Reply with quote

" Scotland's Ancient Egyptian Collections "

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From stelae to shabtis, canopic jars to Coptic cloth, immense public interest in Egyptology from the 1800s onwards has led to the development of ancient Egyptian collections across Scotland.

As part of the Ancient Egypt and East Asia National Programme we undertook a national review of ancient Egyptian collections in Scotland, supported by the Esmée Fairbairn Collections Fund, delivered by the Museums Association. The review highlights some of the objects and stories from these collections. It is the largest and most detailed review of Egyptian collections in Scotland, tracking around 14,000 objects from 25 organisations, spread across 50 sites. ...


Ancient Egyptian Collections in Scottish Museums (PDF - 38,5 MB)[/u]
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I saw that come across the EEF this morning. Doesn't all that stuff belong to someone else, though? For example, the sarcophagus lid has owner back in a tomb somewhere. Shouldn't those items be returned to their rightful owners?
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... Doesn't all that stuff belong to someone else, though? For example, the sarcophagus lid has owner back in a tomb somewhere. Shouldn't those items be returned to their rightful owners?

They have died for quite some time ...
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... Doesn't all that stuff belong to someone else, though? For example, the sarcophagus lid has an owner back in a tomb somewhere. Shouldn't those items be returned to their rightful owners?

They have died for quite some time ...

True, but the owner had an expectation that their stuff would be left alone. As much as I am fascinated by AE, the one thing that has always bothered me was the thievery. And, it wasn't just the guys from the 1800s and 1900s doing the stealing. When they started going broke, didn't the Late Period kings start robbing from the New Kingdom tombs?
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from the fact that I think your comments on this are rather hypocritical (with view of where we are and what we're discussing here in this forum, and on what basis at least most of us do this), what kind of Egypt today do you imagine? A kind of Disney World? And what is with the "rest" of the world?
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By hypocrisy you mean we all enjoy studying the artifacts knowing darn well where they came from?
Should the tombs be preserved, documented, returned to their original state and secured? The temples and monuments, could be restored in an anastylosis manner. A Disneyworld approach would attempt to recreate the AE world as a living tourist experience. While i think that would be fun to visit, the Ancient Egyptians as a race of people no longer exist, so for a truly authentic experience, one would need a time machine.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post-colonial and unworldly ... I guess you have never been to Egypt and have not really dealt with the problems of the present, that the country currently has.

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... Should the tombs be preserved, documented, returned to their original state and secured? The temples and monuments, could be restored in an anastylosis manner. ...

That is hardly possible. Individual tombs and most of the temples have a long history of construction and use. Who should decide which condition at a certain time in its construction and usage history, which lasted several thousand years in some cases, will be restored?

Only preservation and research is possible, and that is what Egyptologists do today. And grave goods and mummies with an age of more than 4,000 years are better kept in museums than in - for financial and organizational reasons alone - unguarded graves in Egypt.
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" Map of ancient Egyptian objects redrawn after collections reviewed " (Evening Express, 16.05.2020)

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A map of Scotland’s ancient Egyptian collections has been redrawn following a review which charted a treasure trove of objects around the country.

Experts at the National Museums Scotland (NMS) identified 25 collections with Egyptian artefacts, including nine previously unknown, and located around 14,000 objects during the course of their research.

The discoveries included what they say are the most northerly ancient Egyptian objects in the UK, which were found in Stromness Museum in Orkney, and previously unidentified figures in Linlithgow Museum. ...

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